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The Free Will Pill

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm
by Philosophy Now
Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?

https://philosophynow.org/issues/130/The_Free_Will_Pill

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:59 pm
by Eodnhoj7
There is a problem with the premise that "free will" gives some form of satisfaction as it places a massive weight of accountability on the shoulders who argue it.

They have to take the "darkness" and form it into light by sheer self-hood.

On the other hand a strict determinism leaves the same negative side effects..."I am locked in the abyss forever?"

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm
by QuantumT
Am I the only one who sees a problem in choosing a pill without free will?

You can't decide to take a free will pill, without possessing free will, which you don't have, because it's in the pill!

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:43 pm
by jayjacobus
One of us believes in free will and the other doesn't. What's the difference in what we do? And can you tell which is which by watching us?

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm
by Walker
QuantumT wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm Am I the only one who sees a problem in choosing a pill without free will?

You can't decide to take a free will pill, without possessing free will, which you don't have, because it's in the pill!
Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:23 pm
by Wyman
Walker wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm
QuantumT wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm Am I the only one who sees a problem in choosing a pill without free will?

You can't decide to take a free will pill, without possessing free will, which you don't have, because it's in the pill!
Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?
Great reference!

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:34 am
by QuantumT
Walker wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?
Yeah! He could have taken the Free Willy Pill, and made the movie R rated! :mrgreen:

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:04 am
by Walker
QuantumT wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:34 am
Walker wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?
Yeah! He could have taken the Free Willy Pill, and made the movie R rated! :mrgreen:
You can always tell a blue-pill popper. :wink:

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am
by HexHammer
Philosophy Now wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm
by Wyman
HexHammer wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am
Philosophy Now wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!
Huh?

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:05 pm
by HexHammer
Wyman wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm
HexHammer wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am
Philosophy Now wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!
Huh?
If people truly had free will society would descend into anarchy!

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:38 pm
by Wyman
HexHammer wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:05 pm
Wyman wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm
HexHammer wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!
Huh?
If people truly had free will society would descend into anarchy!
You sound like the Grand Inquisitor, people need to be led by their noses whether by religion or other means. People wouldn't want free will even if it could be offered.

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:53 am
by HexHammer
Wyman wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:38 pm People wouldn't want free will even if it could be offered.
How do you know? What if it was forced?

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm
by Wyman
HexHammer wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:53 am
Wyman wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:38 pm People wouldn't want free will even if it could be offered.
How do you know? What if it was forced?
Isn't forcing free will an oxymoron? But I think that most people like to be told how to act - they believe in moral maxims that are handed to them by religion or society or parents and then rather thoughtlessly follow them. It is too much pressure to act freely.

Re: The Free Will Pill

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:04 pm
by HexHammer
Wyman wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm Isn't forcing free will an oxymoron? But I think that most people like to be told how to act - they believe in moral maxims that are handed to them by religion or society or parents and then rather thoughtlessly follow them. It is too much pressure to act freely.
Ever taken an IQ test? What you say makes no sense, it's incoherent babble!