The Free Will Pill

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The Free Will Pill

Post by Philosophy Now » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm

Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?

https://philosophynow.org/issues/130/The_Free_Will_Pill

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:59 pm

There is a problem with the premise that "free will" gives some form of satisfaction as it places a massive weight of accountability on the shoulders who argue it.

They have to take the "darkness" and form it into light by sheer self-hood.

On the other hand a strict determinism leaves the same negative side effects..."I am locked in the abyss forever?"

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by QuantumT » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm

Am I the only one who sees a problem in choosing a pill without free will?

You can't decide to take a free will pill, without possessing free will, which you don't have, because it's in the pill!

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by jayjacobus » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:43 pm

One of us believes in free will and the other doesn't. What's the difference in what we do? And can you tell which is which by watching us?

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Walker » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm

QuantumT wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm
Am I the only one who sees a problem in choosing a pill without free will?

You can't decide to take a free will pill, without possessing free will, which you don't have, because it's in the pill!
Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Wyman » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:23 pm

Walker wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm
QuantumT wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm
Am I the only one who sees a problem in choosing a pill without free will?

You can't decide to take a free will pill, without possessing free will, which you don't have, because it's in the pill!
Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?
Great reference!

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by QuantumT » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:34 am

Walker wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm
Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?
Yeah! He could have taken the Free Willy Pill, and made the movie R rated! :mrgreen:

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Walker » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:04 am

QuantumT wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:34 am
Walker wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:06 pm
Are you suggesting that the red pill was ever a choice for Neo?
Yeah! He could have taken the Free Willy Pill, and made the movie R rated! :mrgreen:
You can always tell a blue-pill popper. :wink:

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by HexHammer » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am

Philosophy Now wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm
Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Wyman » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am
Philosophy Now wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm
Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!
Huh?

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by HexHammer » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:05 pm

Wyman wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm
HexHammer wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am
Philosophy Now wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:53 pm
Taylor A. Dunn asks, if free will were a drug, should you take it?
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!
Huh?
If people truly had free will society would descend into anarchy!

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Wyman » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:38 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:05 pm
Wyman wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm
HexHammer wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:10 am
No, that leads to mass murder, vile and psychotic behaviour!
Huh?
If people truly had free will society would descend into anarchy!
You sound like the Grand Inquisitor, people need to be led by their noses whether by religion or other means. People wouldn't want free will even if it could be offered.

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by HexHammer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:53 am

Wyman wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:38 pm
People wouldn't want free will even if it could be offered.
How do you know? What if it was forced?

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by Wyman » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:53 am
Wyman wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:38 pm
People wouldn't want free will even if it could be offered.
How do you know? What if it was forced?
Isn't forcing free will an oxymoron? But I think that most people like to be told how to act - they believe in moral maxims that are handed to them by religion or society or parents and then rather thoughtlessly follow them. It is too much pressure to act freely.

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Re: The Free Will Pill

Post by HexHammer » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:04 pm

Wyman wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm
Isn't forcing free will an oxymoron? But I think that most people like to be told how to act - they believe in moral maxims that are handed to them by religion or society or parents and then rather thoughtlessly follow them. It is too much pressure to act freely.
Ever taken an IQ test? What you say makes no sense, it's incoherent babble!

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