seeds wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:41 am
...some things simply are not amenable to testing and experiments.
uwot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:33 pm
I think Arising is right to reserve judgement on the weight of the links, but do you not think it would be equally wise not to decide in advance the limits of experimentation?
Of course I would never say never about any reasonable theory.
However, there is absolutely nothing that the researchers in those links are doing that even remotely suggests that they could ever reach into the dream island depicted in my little drawing...
...and literally measure the height and girth of the palm trees, or the distance between the trees and the water, etc., etc..
And even more importantly, none of the tests offer the slightest clue as to the physiological details and whereabouts of the dreamer
And I truly hope that no one here is clueless enough to suggest that the paralyzed blob of material flesh lying there on the testing bed is what’s dreaming the dream.
And just to offer a humorous (if not ludicrous) example of what the researchers are actually doing with their MRI and EEG machines, please consider the following thought experiment:
Imagine a team of researchers observing the body of a subject who has somehow managed to project her consciousness into the inner-dimension of a parallel universe.
And upon seeing a twitch on the body's nose, the researchers immediately pull the subject’s consciousness back into her body (back in our universe) in order to ask her to describe what she was seeing or, perhaps, smelling in that other universe at the moment of the twitch.
Now that, in an analogical nutshell, is basically what is happening in the links provided by Arising_uk.
Now it is just my personal opinion, but I highly doubt that future innovations of human technology will ever overcome the metaphysical barriers that prevent us from entering the closed
dimensions of each other’s minds (at least not in any literal