Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:21 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:31 am
I can't understand a grown woman , which I suppose you are, who believes that she lacks nothing of knowledge or wisdom. Do you actually feel that you know all you need to know?
You have misinterpreted me what I meant. But no problem it seems to be the insanity that is the human mind...I meant there is nothing another person can give to us in the form of knowledge of our ''own self'' that we don't already know within ourselves.
And no I never implied I know all I needed to know, I said I know crucially that the first step toward wisdom is to ''know thyself''...that's all I meant...and that once that ''knowing thy real self'' is well and truly established, all else will be added unto thee...so to speak.
Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:31 am"Not resonating in tune with our own frequency" I do understand . True , Ken nor anybody else can make you reply if you don't want to.
I believe that you are mistaken in your belief that "we don't need to seek that knowing externally from somebody else". You would not want someone else to do all of your thinking for you. But I can't see any possibility that others' ideas are irrelevant to you . After all, little Dontsaskme the tiny newborn did not arrive as a believer in non dualism. Somebody must have written the books,or given the talks ,or otherwise communicated the idea to you at some time.
And just who the heck do you think that ''SOMEBODY'' is? ...this is not something to be known by a ''Someone''
....You already are the ''Knowing Self'' which is the ''SAME KNOWING SELF WITHIN ALL OF US...it's not external to us. Please keep your ignorance to yourself, and stop projecting it as if I was the ignorant one.
I'm simply saying Nondual reality exists throughout all stages of human growth from conception of sperm and egg, to babyhood right through to old age...in essence, what we are essentially has never even left the place where sperm and egg combined ...do you see that?
...therefore, Nondual reality does not have to be taught, it is reality already, it is what you are. There is no one to believe in being to be being, there is only being. That's what this speaking is pointing to..it's pointing one back to the place they never left.
Stop projecting your own beliefs onto me, that are not mine....
WHY the disrespectful responses, especially when there are obvious truths being pointed out to you?
WHY do you NOT want to look at what is being said to you? Instead you appear to just ignore that and turn it into some thing else?
Also, I do NOT observe any projecting of others onto you here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:21 amI've already explained why there is no external teaching separate from your own teacher within...toward self realising 'thy own self'...
Do you (dontaskme) know 'thy own self'?
If so, then who or what is it?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:21 amSo what I'm talking about here,is how I have made repeated requests to Ken to stop responding to my posts, but he doesn't honor those requests because in my opinion he is a psychopathic troll.
Or, maybe I just want you to explain yourself further.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:21 am He constantly tells me ''this is how you do it'' and then denies he's saying that to me when he knows full well he is saying it to me...
I have NEVER denied telling every person that being OPEN is the best, simplest and easiest way to discover thee real and true Self, and ALL the other really meaningful answers in Life, in fact.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:21 amhe repeatedly points out to me that if you don't see it this way..''you will never learn anything''
I have NEVER said that "if you don't see it this way, then you will never learn". You obviously have NOT being reading and seeing what I have been writing and saying. There are two completely different messages here. Just look at the difference between what you (dontaskme) says I have been saying and what I have actually been saying, which I have reiterated in My immediate response before this quote.
Also, it is in fact you (dontaskme) who says things like "if you do not see it my (donaskme's non-duality) way, then you are WRONG". It is from those obvious thoughts, within that head, which are about how non-duality is the ultimate truth, as non-duality does away with all theories, that you are the one who thinks and talks that way.
Your own writings point to this fact, as I have just shown. Whereas, can you show in My writings where I speak like the way you say I do. What i think will be found is that your assumptions are leading you astray, once again. Unless of course you can back up what you say with some support?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:21 amSeriously, telling other people ''how to do something'' when they can't is totally disrespectful, and that just about sums it up really.
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Are you able to clarify what "Sums
it up really", means?
And, are you able to clarify, what is it exactly that I tell people how to do, which you say is IMPOSSIBLE to do?
Alluding to some thing, which you then do not clarify, I find very disrespectful.
Telling others what they can NOT do, when it may after all actually be not just possible but in fact a really simple and easy thing to, I also find very disrespectful.
I KNOW what is possible because I HAVE ALREADY DONE IT. If you have not done it nor yet even learned how to do it, then it is better for you if you stopped presuming that you and others can not do it nor learn how to do it. In fact what is better is you REMAIN OPEN so that you CAN discover the truth.
If you continue to claim that you know then truth, then it would be better for you and help you a great deal if you could at least back back up your claim with some sort of evidence and support.