Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:10 am
Does this mean than you only put those who say 'anything important enough' on your ignore list?
No. It just means I ignore those who repeatedly say nothing of any importance.
So, when you say and write:
You're not saying anything important enough to get you on a real "ignore" list.
What you REALLY mean is the EXACT OPPOSITE, correct?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Look, Age: here's how it goes.
You came here to the forum, and all you ever seem to do is ask inane questions.
What you call "inane", I call CLARIFYING.
If you are UNABLE TO CLARIFY my clarifying questions posed to you, then so be it. But they are only asked in reply to what you, "yourself", have said and written.
If you cannot just CLARIFY what you say and mean, then that infers that you do NOT YET KNOW what you are actually talking about. Or, that you do not because you would have to CONTRADICT "yourself". As PROVEN True by ALL of the examples in our discussions.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
If one person posts something small, you'll write six angry messages in response, using CAPS for no reason, spewing defiance, insulting anybody older than you, and none of them adding any information or taking any position of your own...just hyper-cynical prattle.
LOL
LOL
LOL
Just about EVERY thing you have written here is just you providing EXAMPLES of your own ASSUMPTIONS, which are CLEARLY PLAINLY ABSURD and Wrong. And which can be CLEARLY PROVEN absolutely True.
You are also SHOWING and REVEALING just how little you read of what I ACTUALLY write.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
In short, you'll mimic the conversational style of a bedwetting teenager with rebellion issues...as if complaining and challenging people was actually a sign of intelligence.
If people like "yourself" can NOT handle being CHALLENGED, and/or will NOT just ACCEPT the CHALLENGE, then this SHOWS and REVEALS far more about 'you' than it does 'I'.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
It's very, very off-putting to people. And that's the truth.
OF COURSE people being CHALLENGED is off-putting to them.
'you', people, literally are those views and ideas being expressed, which I am CHALLENGING 'you' on.
'I' am, literally, refuting and disproving those BELIEFS through, and by, Truth, which would be VERY off-putting, for 'you'.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Now, you
could listen to somebody, take a thoughtful position of your own, and add some value. You don't seem stupid. But I think you don't quite know what we're doing here on a philosophy forum, and you model yourself on the cynical carping of some of the worst people here, rather than on the best and most thoughtful contributors.
LOL
Who do you envision are the "worst" people here (as though that could even be a REAL and True thing), and, who do you envision are the "best" and "most thoughtful" contributors?
Do you envision you would be in the latter and not in the former, by the way?
Also, you do not think I know what 'you', people, are doing here on a philosophy forum, so will you tell us what 'you', people, are doing here on a philosophy forum?
If you do NOT, then here is MORE EVIDENCE of just how 'off-putting' to you it REALLY IS when you are BEING CHALLENGED. Your non response will also REVEAL your absolute INABILITY to back up and support your claims. Which is what you REALLY HATE me REVEALING here.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
You call all that "clarifying questions," but they're not "clarifying": as soon as any is answered, you'll just issue another string of empty questions and, probably a bit of abuse and insult as well. Who needs it?
I have NEVER abused NOR insulted ANY one here.
And, this is VERY EASILY PROVEN True by the FACT that not one of you can SHOW nor PROVE otherwise.
I ask CLARIFYING QUESTIONS to SHOW and REVEAL that 'you', human beings, in the days when this was written, did NOT REALLY KNOW what you were actually saying and talking about. And, 'you', "immanuel can", are one of the BEST examples of this.
'you' talk about 'God', as though you know what you are talking about but you have ALREADY PROVEN that you have absolutely NO REAL idea AT ALL.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
So of course people ignore most of what you say.
I NEVER said NOR even implied that they did not.
In fact, I would LOVE it if a LOT of 'you' did. This then backs up and supports FURTHER, and even PROVES, some of the claims I have made here.
And, if you did NOT YET REALIZE I am NOT here, in this forum, to be acknowledged/heard by 'you', contributors. I am just USING 'you', people, for my OWN purposes and a very specific outcome.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Who has time for six messages for every one, and who has time for an unending series of cynical questions that never advance a single original thought?
"cynical" is YOUR VIEW and PERCEPTION.
And, until one of you starts answering, Honestly and OPENLY, the ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS that I pose to you, then you will NEVER KNOW what the ACTUAL outcome would be.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
You
can do better, I think.
By the way, your superiority complex, holier-than-thou, and subtleties here, do NOT go unnoticed.
And, from what you have SHOWN here, if you do NOT change, then you REALLY can NOT do better.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
You
should do better. But whether or not you
will ever do better will be up to you, of course.
And this coming from the one who is NOT ABLE to just be Honest and answer some CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. Which is extremely hypocritical considering the CLAIMS you want to make here.
By the way, what is the word 'better' here in relation to, EXACTLY?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
And until we see a single interesting, original or positve contribution from you, don't be surprised if most people also eventually tire of trying to engage you and go away.
Here is a GREAT EXAMPLE of when people are STUCK, or AFRAID, of the "other", then they will resort to some imagined or formed group of people to make them feel "their side" is bigger and better than it REALLY IS.
Also, noticed is the amount of attention and time you have spend putting into responding to someone who, supposedly, has NEVER written "a single interesting, original, nor positive contribution". And, which you, supposedly,
just ignore anyway.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
However, your last response showed a modicum of restraint and self-awareness. That's good. Maximize that. Learn to speak to people as if you have a mutual desire to learn something in the exchange,
I have learned, and am, learning FAR MORE from 'you', human beings, than you will ever know and realize. I just learn things that you could not even imagine, at the moment.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
instead of only a hostile urge to contradict.
I have NEVER been "hostile". And, I just SHOW and REVEAL the CONTRADICTIONS people like you, continually, make.
I have NEVER made a CONTRADICTION "myself", unless, of course, I did it PURPOSELY to SHOW and REVEAL some 'thing'.
I can PROVE this True as NO one has ever shown ANY, supposed, "contradiction" I have ever made, even though I do write, seemingly, 'contradictory' sometimes, in an effort to be CHALLENGED. But even these seem to go unnoticed, usually. I have even pleaded with 'you', human beings, to bring to light ANY wrong I have made if ANY one EVER sees ANY contradiction/wrong in what I write, and then ALLOW a discussion to take place.
I am STILL WAITING, by the way.
Also, asking 'you', contributors, Truly OPEN CLARIFYING QUESTIONS is NOT wrong, either.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
And you'll find that people like you much, much better, and you actually get somewhere on this forum.
I am NOT seeking to be "liked". 'I' KNOW who, and what, 'I' AM, and that is all that Truly matters.
Also, you STILL appear to be MISUNDERSTANDING 'Me'. I am NOT here, in this forum, to get where you ASSUME I wan to get.
I am ACHIEVING, and getting, EXACTLY what I want on, and from, this forum. Which, by the way, is NOWHERE you IMAGINE I want to "get to".
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Hey, I might be the only person here who will tell you this.
You have NOT really said ANY ACTUAL 'thing', except that me CHALLENGING you is VERY off-putting for you. Which was ALREADY TOTALLY KNOWN, and UNDERSTANDABLE.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:15 pm
The rest will probably just give up on you and go away. So you can take it or leave it as you please, I guess. But now you know.
And, you can take 'it' or leave 'it' also. But, you would STILL have absolutely NO idea NOR clue AT ALL about what I am talking about and referring to, correct?