What's the easiest language to learn?

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Walker wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:06 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:07 am but ya and no, if one was born via monster parents, not knowing of love, such a language would be foreign, and why we have serial killers. so not an easy language to learn (and IMO - post puberty is a "wall off" biologically - and so too late to learn that language)


sadly.
Hey Gaffo. Everyone, even an illiterate baby, knows the language of luv. Some don’t use it, for whatever reason.
Respectfully disagree, 99-percent of us know that language - and sadly too many ignore it knowing - lying/betraying themselves to it - but there are the 1-percent born in environments that denied thier "moral gene" to activate and have no clue to what morality is, nor have that "inner voice".

I do believe that there are moral genes, we are all born with, and most of us have then activated by puberty and so even thugs who act counter to that inner voice still have the voice but kill it in their persute of personal gain.

the few 1-pecenters had an upbringing so horrific than that their "moral genes" were not allowed to activate (and imo post puberty is too late to activate them) - and live lives today - either as criminals or CEOs lives of self interest with no inner moral conscience.

We call them Psychopaths, Socialpaths.

just my opinion on the matter.

thanks for reply Sir.
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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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gaffo wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:38 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:06 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:07 am but ya and no, if one was born via monster parents, not knowing of love, such a language would be foreign, and why we have serial killers. so not an easy language to learn (and IMO - post puberty is a "wall off" biologically - and so too late to learn that language)


sadly.
Hey Gaffo. Everyone, even an illiterate baby, knows the language of luv. Some don’t use it, for whatever reason.
Respectfully disagree, 99-percent of us know that language - and sadly too many ignore it knowing - lying/betraying themselves to it - but there are the 1-percent born in environments that denied thier "moral gene" to activate and have no clue to what morality is, nor have that "inner voice".

I do believe that there are moral genes, we are all born with, and most of us have then activated by puberty and so even thugs who act counter to that inner voice still have the voice but kill it in their persute of personal gain.

the few 1-pecenters had an upbringing so horrific than that their "moral genes" were not allowed to activate (and imo post puberty is too late to activate them) - and live lives today - either as criminals or CEOs lives of self interest with no inner moral conscience.

We call them Psychopaths, Socialpaths.

just my opinion on the matter.

thanks for reply Sir.
Well, wise mothers teach their daughters not to confuse sincerity with the language of love, seeing as how within their arsenals of interpersonal manipulation many sociopaths and teenage boys can imitate sincerity and compassion by parroting luv talk.
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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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The easiest language to learn is one you actually care about. My parents didn't teach me Cymraeg ('Welsh') but I learned it to a fair degree before I was ten, without formal help, whereas the English, who hate us, can't even learn to say the one or two mildly difficult sounds, or the learn phonetic pronunciation of places they visit frequently. With Latin, on the other hand, I've been stuggling for a lifetime, Alleged 'relationship' depends on structure - I'm lost with Irish because, like Latin, it's inflected, whereas I used to be quite good with Gwo Yeu Chinese. I have A Level French, but the French were always so perfectionist that I read rather than talk it, whereas I picked up workable Italian in holiday passing, so to speak. A lot of this stuff depends on the linguistic background of the individual, I think.
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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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For me, the easiest languages are English and French. English is my mother tongue and French I learned in just six months. Je peux le parler couramment. 8)
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The easiest language to learn is the one spoken by your parents and siblings. You will learn this language without memorizing lists or studying for exams. It may take you months to become fluent and years to master it, but, no matter, longer doesn’t make it harder.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:46 am
-1- wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:46 pm
gaffo wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:48 am

60-percent of English is French-ish due to the Norman invasion.

i think it is the pronunciation (that word - "pronunciation" looks French to me - most "ations" enlish words are from French (and Latin - via english monks, and "the reformation/enlightenment push in the 16th century (where english speakers re-introducted (this word looks French to me too BTW) Latin back into English.

..........i.e i think it is the pronunciation that throw off Frogs, not the spelling of english.

------there is little left of German in English - most of it was removed by the Normans 800 yrs ago.

only our short words tend to be German.
Words alone don't make a language. There is also grammar, with its myriads of idiosyncrasies... word order, verb tenses, conjugation, declination, gendered nouns, noun-verb agreement, adjective-noun agreement, use of / lack of modal verbs, irregular verbs, vowel agreement, phoneme agreement, and the list goes on and on and on.
yes - but all the stuff you mentioned above is a "higher order" characteristic of language


you can "Figure out" any language - even if word order is wrong, grammar is wrong/etc - if you know the words used.

so i dissagree - "Words" make up 80 percent of any language - the rest is just acutriments






-1- wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:46 pm In the grammar sense, English is highly Germanic, much like German, Danish, Dutch, Swedish and Norwegian. In its word content, it has more french words than Germanic, but in everyday use 90 percent of all your words are of Germanic origin.
yes, your reference is relivent per grammar (however AFAIK, French has lost its Lain roots - no word order - and so also has word order ----so not sure if you are saying "English is german because there is word order" or not).

I think your 90-percent is hyperbole, i guess if your vobabulary is severly limited,

but i'm not buying it. i use bigger words i guess - lol

Re the "higher order" stuff, I would think it would also be correlated to just how socially acceptable it is to do that "higher order" stuff in a variety of ways. English is quite tolerant of all sorts of variations, as exhibited by regional differences, subcultural differences, etc. Some other languages may not be as tolerant. So that can make those languages more difficult.
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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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Terrapin Station wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:10 pm
gaffo wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:46 am
-1- wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:46 pm

Words alone don't make a language. There is also grammar, with its myriads of idiosyncrasies... word order, verb tenses, conjugation, declination, gendered nouns, noun-verb agreement, adjective-noun agreement, use of / lack of modal verbs, irregular verbs, vowel agreement, phoneme agreement, and the list goes on and on and on.
yes - but all the stuff you mentioned above is a "higher order" characteristic of language


you can "Figure out" any language - even if word order is wrong, grammar is wrong/etc - if you know the words used.

so i dissagree - "Words" make up 80 percent of any language - the rest is just acutriments






-1- wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:46 pm In the grammar sense, English is highly Germanic, much like German, Danish, Dutch, Swedish and Norwegian. In its word content, it has more french words than Germanic, but in everyday use 90 percent of all your words are of Germanic origin.
yes, your reference is relivent per grammar (however AFAIK, French has lost its Lain roots - no word order - and so also has word order ----so not sure if you are saying "English is german because there is word order" or not).

I think your 90-percent is hyperbole, i guess if your vobabulary is severly limited,

but i'm not buying it. i use bigger words i guess - lol

Re the "higher order" stuff, I would think it would also be correlated to just how socially acceptable it is to do that "higher order" stuff in a variety of ways. English is quite tolerant of all sorts of variations, as exhibited by regional differences, subcultural differences, etc. Some other languages may not be as tolerant. So that can make those languages more difficult.
wow reply to a 3yr old post - long time no see. all is well?


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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:12 am I suspect this won't be an easy question to answer due in part to all the languages that exist.

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I have no idea what the easiest language to learn is, but the hardest is apparently English. Even for those for whom English is their only language, only about one out of every hundred thousand can actually speak and write it correctly, or read and understand it.
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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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Once you understand a LAN_gauge

I would say - a programming language - anything beyond 2 level so long as a modicum of logic is within your forte.
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Re: What's the easiest language to learn?

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Chinese looks the most difficult to learn.
English and German seem good language and easiest to learn.
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