What does silence mean?

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by QuantumT » Fri May 18, 2018 9:42 pm

That sales technique is being used by women every day. It's called The Silent Treatment.

The "not knowing" does the trick in the mind of the counter-party, to the point of desparation.

A truly powerful, yet malevolent card to play.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri May 18, 2018 9:47 pm

QuantumT wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 9:42 pm
That sales technique is being used by women every day. It's called The Silent Treatment.

The "not knowing" does the trick in the mind of the counter-party, to the point of desparation.

A truly powerful, yet malevolent card to play.
In sales, silence doesn't pressure as no message is being transmitted.

Would anyone care to comment what it means to the entertainment industry, i.e. to music and comedy?

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sat May 19, 2018 6:13 am

I heard a frequencyphile say on the radio that each insect and bird that contributes to nature’s background composition of noise has proprietary rights over its own frequency. Intruding machine noises silence the natural harmonies, which may not re-establish until after an hour of machine silence. If the machine noises persist, then the natural symphony leaves and doesn’t return and the generation of noisemakers dies off. The fellow had many recordings of nature’s noise, some of them recorded in the same place in different years. As machine noises increased over the years the natural sounds changed, like art losing big patches of color.

In music and comedy, silence enables the timing of sound, and cognition of the last sound’s meaning.

Steven Wright: best use of 49 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzaDt0IbF4

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Greta » Sat May 19, 2018 6:18 am

Re: the OP.

Dunno. I've never shut up long enough to find out.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sat May 19, 2018 6:54 am

Greta wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 6:18 am
Re: the OP.

Dunno. I've never shut up long enough to find out.
Arvo Pärt clears the way for silence if it don't come easy.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sat May 19, 2018 7:11 am

Continuing on with Wright’s best use of 49 seconds, what does the howling of women mean at the end of his clip?

These days when I’m in an audience and it’s time for everyone to show their appreciation to the performer(s), there’s always at least one woman in the crowd yelping or howling. Sometimes it’s a man pitching his voice high, like a woman.

What the hell is this? It wasn’t always so. What changed? I wonder what effect a good ululation might have amongst the applause.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Greta » Sat May 19, 2018 11:38 pm

Walker wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 6:54 am
Greta wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 6:18 am
Re: the OP. Dunno. I've never shut up long enough to find out.
Arvo Pärt clears the way for silence if it don't come easy.
Which part? Early arvo, mid afternoon or just before dusk?

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sun May 20, 2018 12:43 am

Greta wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:38 pm
Walker wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 6:54 am
Greta wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 6:18 am
Re: the OP. Dunno. I've never shut up long enough to find out.
Arvo Pärt clears the way for silence if it don't come easy.
Which part? Early arvo, mid afternoon or just before dusk?
This sounds like end of the day peace overshadowing some recurring, intruding anxiety from Arvo’s mid-day part.

Silentium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJ5qleyzyk

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sun May 20, 2018 12:48 am

This is definitely the morning part of life.
Pre-dawn and sunrise.

Musical instruments are just approximations and endearing, the closer they get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WrP_9Jpfkc

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Greta » Sun May 20, 2018 12:51 am

Walker wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:43 am
Greta wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:38 pm
Walker wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 6:54 am
Arvo Pärt clears the way for silence if it don't come easy.
Which part? Early arvo, mid afternoon or just before dusk?
This sounds like end of the day peace overshadowing some recurring, intruding anxiety from Arvo’s mid-day part.

Silentium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJ5qleyzyk
Walker, you do realise that I am being a little shit here, don't you? :)

I did check the YT link when you first posted. However, music is not a silencer for me because I have played instruments for much of my life. Being a musician changes your tastes through familiarity, so music without tension is akin to giving baby food to a foodie.

My favourite advice came only recently: http://www.hvmag.com/Hudson-Valley-Maga ... ving-Well/. Anyone in that kind of shape at her age is someone who knows how to live better than anyone in my family. So if she says "just breathe" is the main thing, that'll do me for now.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sun May 20, 2018 1:04 am

I know. It’s human nature. :)

Check out this cocky old fellow, and listen to what he says.

Impressive chest expansion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPjvp4La8A

“Did you observe the beauty of that sound?”

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I'll tell you this much.

Silence implies emptiness, which implies no sound.

However, if you listen carefully, the primordial sound always underlies reality.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Greta » Sun May 20, 2018 1:53 am

Walker wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 1:04 am
I know. It’s human nature. :)

Check out this cocky old fellow, and listen to what he says.

Impressive chest expansion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPjvp4La8A

“Did you observe the beauty of that sound?”

*

I'll tell you this much.

Silence implies emptiness, which implies no sound.

However, if you listen carefully, the primordial sound always underlies reality.
The things people can do never cease to amaze me - that guru has a decent set of lungs!

Well, there are gravity waves and the CMB, but the primordial sound that we can hear tends to be heart and lungs with the occasional gurgle from lower regions :)

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by Walker » Sun May 20, 2018 7:55 am

Not only that, his economy in explaining practical physiology sorts out changes. The mind bone connected to the sense bone, the breath bone connected to the mind bone, the nerve bone connected to the breath bone, the vibration bone connected to the nerve bone, and the universe humming the vibration.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by commonsense » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:19 pm

Silence in symphonic music stimulates a sense of anticipation in the audience.

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Re: What does silence mean?

Post by gaffo » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:30 am

commonsense wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:19 pm
Silence in symphonic music stimulates a sense of anticipation in the audience.
yep. prokofiev's(sp) 4th symphony is a fav and has much silence around the flute.

i love minor cords and disscordance too - which said work is full of also ;-).

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