I don't know it. What I do know is that the situation is being played out in some media as he is obviously guilty and then in the other side's political media as if it is obvious he is innocent. In that latter version, facts are being left out. He was much more responsible for what was happening on the set than just as an actor. He had live rounds on him. He broke protocols for aiming and pulling the trigger that as an experienced actor he would not simply been responsible to follow but for decades aware of. That as producer he would have been aware or should have been of what had been happening on set. This is not some simple victim to armorer error. That story is myth. You've been reading versions that are to the benefit of Baldwin. And these versions paint him as merely an actor, one who did what he was supposed given his role. That's BS. The version you presented in the OP of this thread has omissions that radically bias the issue.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:37 pm Are you suggesting he had taken his own real bullets onto the set and had them in a 'gunbelt' (is that like a bum bag with bullets in it?)? How do you know this?
There are political issues swirling all around this, but there are good grounds to put him on trial and work with the evidence. Someone died in part because he broke protocol as the actor. Then there are other problems with his, I just did what the armorer assured me was safe argument. And he also has changed his story. Sometimes he never pulled the trigger. Sometimes, he says, he did. This doesn't mean he's guilty. He could be scared and told untruths. But it should make a prosecutor more interested in his testimory in general. And, it's, well lying.
On the issue of him pulling the trigger....
However the FBI disagrees...From the Guardian...
Baldwin says he did not fire the gun that killed Halyna Hutchins in preview for actor’s first on-camera interview since tragedy
Get that, the person pointing and firing the gun says he did not pull the trigger, but the FBI says that cannot be the case.The gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger, according to an FBI forensic report obtained Friday by ABC News.
He's on film saying over and over he did not pull the trigger. He says he would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. Well, his account is sounding rather mythological and self-serving.
On the issue of the live round.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... arged-rustIn addition to the bullet that killed Hutchins, investigators found five additional live rounds of ammunition mingled among the movie’s props and costumes. Two loose .45 bullets were discovered on top of a prop cart, a third was in a bandolier worn by actor Jensen Ackles, a fourth was in a gun belt worn by Baldwin, and a fifth was found in a box of dummy ammunition with Gutierrez Reed’s fingerprints on it. (Dummy rounds are fake bullets that look real, but are completely inert and have no gunpowder in them.)
Further, Baldwin pointed the gun towards the monitor and camera, where Hutchins was standing. On a normally-run set, this should have been noticed. The on-camera-monitor would simply be flipped over to the other side of the camera so that nobody would be in the line of fire.
From...Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures.
https://www.backstage.com/magazine/arti ... uns-72859/
So, on a set where he is producer and actor, he pointed the gun at someone, violating prop gun on set rules.
Then from the Guardian....
That's a set where he's the producer. Perhaps he didn't know this. That's something that can come out at the trial. He might still be culpable, given his dual role, even if, he didn't know. And how much was he responsible for any chaos or tensions on set that led to the specific situation and also for NOT taking that into account when he was working with the prop gun? I don't know that No question a civil suit is coming and he will probably lose that one or settle, though the loss may be mainly via insurance companies. I don't know if they can go at his personal assets. But it seems to me there are good grounds to put him on trial, given the whole context.A recent report on the incident found the film’s production company “knew that firearm safety procedures were not being followed on set” and “demonstrated plain indifference to employee safety”.
He was a producer on the film and an active one on set. He has been in movies with guns for decades. Actors have to follow the rules ALSO. There are rules specifically for actors. And in this case, given his dual role and long experience, he cannot possibly pass off his naivte which he himself claims not to have, onto someone else. As he says in interviews he would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. Well, that seems completely false.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:02 pm
The usual idiocy from a resident idiot. These are actors we are talking about, so you have to treat them as 'children' when it comes to expertise on guns