What pattern-chaser sees, I can't tell you.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:21 am Well, I apologise, people that don't quote WHO is actually speaking get me caught out, turns out this new idiot pattern-chaser said it:Do you agree with that statement?Pattern-chaser wrote:"When I speak I do not speak as Immanuel Can, I simply mouth what is stated in Biblical texts as being 'absolutely true'. You do not believe me? Well, that means that you do not believe God. And there will be a punishment for you because you did not believe God. In just a few short years you will be in Hell."
What I can tell you is that neither God nor I wishes you, or anybody, any such fate. But I'll let somebody else explain a very different perspective to you. In this case, it's Penn Jillette, famous for both magicianship and his ardent Atheism.
“I’ve always said that I don’t respect people who don’t proselytize. I don’t respect that at all. If you believe that there’s a heaven and a hell, and people could be going to hell or not getting eternal life, and you think that it’s not really worth telling them this because it would make it socially awkward—and atheists who think people shouldn’t proselytize and who say just leave me along and keep your religion to yourself—how much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate somebody to believe everlasting life is possible and not tell them that?
“I mean, if I believed, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that a truck was coming at you, and you didn’t believe that truck was bearing down on you, there is a certain point where I tackle you. And this is more important than that.”
He's absolutely right. The kind of callousness and wickedness you're attributing to me would actually be much more likely expressed as a complete unwillingness to speak about what God says. If I desired your death, or the death of others, I would surely fall silent and say no more. And if God wished me to do so, would I not do it? Of course; for that would be the most expeditions means to guarantee the outcome you accuse me of wanting.
But in point of fact, you're absolutely wrong, and couldn't be more wrong. Since I believe what I believe, I speak what I believe, and hope that as many people as possible can know it. For I have my own answer to make to God, even if I didn't also have a duty to you, which I do.
Be careful what you wish for. One day will the last day anyboody tells you this.
Well, I don't doubt you had a tough time. Life has many such, and some worse for some people than others. Some of these plausibly may be "judgments," but far more often they're just vicissitudes, difficulties, trials and the results of life in a fallen world. They fall to all of us alike, so long as we are here, and they signal nothing about God's final assessment of us. Those who read the Book of Job know this.I had my Judgement Day just two months ago, July btw.
But if you're still on this Earth, then final judgment's not what you had.