Reality is creating suffering and pain because it's known via experience. When it's known, then that knowing can be stopped by not making more knowers.
..aka babies that then grow up to become really huge pains in the arse..
Because what the word "jesus" IS, and refers to, is coming-to-knowledge. Or, in other words, coming-back.
What that MEANS IS: When 'adult human beings' REALIZE that they ARE the CREATORS of 'this world', that is; the greedy, war-torn, pollution-riddled, and very stressful 'world' that 'you' ALL have to live in, in the days when this was being written, then this MEANS 'you', adult human beings, are God, in a sense. (and when one LOOKS AT just what adult human beings have CREATED and continue to CREATE, then this is ONLY the power that God could have). Now, when, and IF, adult are Honest enough to ADMIT that ALL the Wrong in the 'world' is BECAUSE of 'them', and they take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for 'this world', and NOT 'try' and BLAME 'this world' on some other 'thing', like some OTHER God, for example, then what this MEANS IS: ALL 'children' are "jesus". And, with this KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING, then this IS; The second coming of "jesus".
Every one of us who is making a statement as and through the written word is making a claim to know something.
But it is YOU who SAYS; Life and Reality are nothing but just PAIN, SUFFERING, and MISERY. So, to you, creating wars and killing innocent children, to put them out of their MISERY, SHOULD be a GOOD THING, correct?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:54 amHow many more lambs are we going to send to the slaughter house already knowing war is bad? we know it's bad, but that's fine, lets just do it all again...lets just keep that wheel turning round and round...because we know it's bad, and that knowing is good for absolutely nothing...Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:52 am Don’t be gettin’ all circular now.
War, what is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dKAX7Jp8wo
Are you getting it yet?
FFS, knowledge that pain and suffering is bad, and that war is never a good idea, rather it the main cause of all pain and suffering, known by direct experience. No one needs to forget that pain and suffering is bad...why keep saying coming to, or coming back to knowledge when we already KNOW RIGHT HERE AND NOW...
'Commonly known' by WHOM, EXACTLY?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:08 amAlright before you start going off on a wild tangent like you ususally do, let's just go back to the basic question.
I've often stated that the concept known as nothing is the equal and exact opposite to the concept known as everything. Which is commonly known as the ABSOLUTE
No 1. Dishonesty.
Because 'you', human beings, grow up learning how to REPLACE TRUE LOVE with the 'love of doing things'.
Because the INSTINCTUAL DRIVE to PROCREATE and KEEP the species ALIVE overrides ALL 'thinking'.
Adult human beings are NOT always known for being 'intelligent'.
Yes, I said that because I know that through experience.
No. That's a terrible thing to do.
Yes, I wish I did not have to live this life of pain and suffering. I also happen to think that it is selfish to impose a life of pain and suffering on an unborn child when we already know what a shitstorm they will be being born into.
Correct.
But this is EXACTLY what you are SAYING and MEANING, correct?
I have NEVER EVER said they did.
But 'pain and suffering' to me is NOT a so-called "insidious experience" AT ALL.
Was TURNING AROUND from talking about and discussing 'seer' and 'seeing' to 'knowing is obviously known', which is OBVIOUSLY absolutely NOTHING I mentioned in the quoted part of MY WORDS, which you are replying to here for ANY OTHER REASON other than DISTRACTION and DEFLECTION?
LOL
Sorry, have to disagree with the instinctual drive to procreate. Animals instinctively mate, yes, but they have no clue they are making babies out of that instinct to mate. They do not say to each other, hey come here you, how about the two of us get together, and make a baby, come on now, open up for me, it's about time we made some babies... not like humans do, who know how babies are made and where they come from.
Did you come to these 'views' and 'concepts' AFTER or BEFORE 'menopause'?
Yes, that's right, now go away. Everything you say to me is like a total mindfuck. That I am supposed to understand, please just shut up, I really have no interest in attempting to understand a single word you say to me.
HOW 'pain and suffering' is KNOWN has NO bearing at what is in question here.
There is a LOT of 'things' that 'you', adult human beings, COULD DO. But 'you' do NOT.
But what has this got to do with what I ACTUALLY QUESTIONED 'you' about?
I have NOT asked you ANY thing about 'war', itself. Okay?
This is BECAUSE of the Fact that the ONLY 'thing' in the WHOLE of the 'known' Universe that CREATES 'war' is the "dumb AND stupid" adult human being. Of which 'you' are ONE OF.
WHY do 'you' KEEP 'trying to' TELL "others" what they SHOULD BE DOING?
BUT, 'pain and suffering' is NOT 'wanted'. And, 'pain and suffering' is 'good' because of what is LEARNED from 'it'. And, when what is LEARNED is put INTO PRACTICE, then there is FAR LESS 'pain' and NO 'suffering' AT ALL.
There are MILLIONS of MILLIONS of children who have gone through completely UNNECESSARY 'pain' AND 'suffering' who have NOT experienced 'war', directly.
BECAUSE that is NOT the 'knowledge' that I was REFERRING TO. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED True above.
That is A QUESTION, and NOT AN ARGUMENT.
BUT, if it is IN Life WHERE, to you, MISERY, PAIN, and SUFFERING EXISTS, AND IS NATURAL, then CREATING 'wars', which CAUSES and CREATES PAIN, SUFFERING, and MISERY is ALSO NATURAL, and would RELIEVE all of those MILLIONS of SUFFERING children of their PAIN and MISERY.
Have you FORGOTTEN ALREADY that what you CLASS and CALL 'pain and suffering' is NOT 'pain and suffering' to EVERY one else or even ANY one else?
Okay, that is what YOU 'think'. We KNOW this ALREADY. But please do NOT FORGET that just what YOU 'think' is NOT necessarily true, right, NOR correct, NOR has ANY resemblance on what is ACTUALLY True, Right, AND Correct.
This does NOT logically follow, and so does NOT make 'logical sense'.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:24 pmCorrect.
Makes logical sense to me, not knowingly creating more suffering in the world, unless we do not care about the suffering in the context we actually have no problem with pain and suffering which seems to be the case, since pregnant women are everywhere, you can usually know when a woman is pregnant when their belly is the size of a huge beach ball.