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Walker wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:08 am Taunting before killing appears to be a time-tested sadistic method. Scientists say that the predator animals do it because adrenaline tenderizes the prey’s raw, living flesh into a tastier meal.
No they don't.
The predator knows nothing of adrenaline. It does not tenderise meat. And even if it did it could not make such a selective advantage to be the reason. The reason is the JOY of PLAY.
Natural Selection has led to carnivores loving the sensation of PLAY. pups and cubs from many species love to play fight. It is obvious how this is great training for hunting and finding your place in the pecking order.
This utter joy of playfulness does not stop with youth, nor is it restricted to your peers but enjoyed in the last moments of hunting.
The predator loves to play, cats and their mice, lions with their deer. It's called joy.

Why do humans taunt and terrorize a victim before killing? Why that urge that reaches all the way back to the caves? Why did the Roman guards psychologically taunt Christ?
Ask a school bully.
They get a kick out of it

It’s probably a statement of total dominance when killing just isn’t enough to convey the totality of the intent that causes the killing.
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PS...

Does stress affect meat?

Short-term acute stress, such as excitement or fighting immediately prior to slaughter, produced lactic acid from the breakdown of glycogen. This results in meat which has a lower pH, lighter color, reduced water binding capacity, and is possibly tougher.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:50 pm
Where is the dance?
For the motionless staring at electronic screens, dialogue is as much a dance as images flickering across the retina, both are simulation stimulation. (Careful though, some of the ladies wear clod-hoppers and will step on your toes.)

Yes, lactic acid. The JOY of dining on raw meat, although I’ve heard that even animals prefer the flavours of cooked meat, likely there's a chemical reason that makes all the difference.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:50 pm
Walker wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:04 am
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:08 pm Vid not available.
I assume it is another clip from Legend?
It’s a clip from Legend that shows dinner at the devil’s house. The devil is doing his best to further charm Lil, as if that dress wasn't enough.
Are you saying the devil is wearing a dress?
No, but he does have hooves so he's a hoofer.

The dress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOBV9iHGXNo

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When the black-dress dancing is done the devil uses his big cloven hooves (seen here) to step out of the mirror, but it would behoove you to consider before seeing a sight made always seeable to memory by the seeing of eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM7oP0FyDKU

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The reason is the JOY of PLAY.
Q: What did the momma cat say to her kitten?

A: Stop not-playing with your food!

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Walker wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:21 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:50 pm
Where is the dance?
For the motionless staring at electronic screens, dialogue is as much a dance as images flickering across the retina, both are simulation stimulation. (Careful though, some of the ladies wear clod-hoppers and will step on your toes.)

Yes, lactic acid. The JOY of dining on raw meat, although I’ve heard that even animals prefer the flavours of cooked meat, likely there's a chemical reason that makes all the difference.
Yes, only cooking and marinating tenderises meat.
Terror and torture is not a culinary advantage.
I've explained why predators like to play and likely why psychos do too.
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Rather than New-Hollywood crazy-psycho dance,

This fella is Old-Hollywood crazy-good dance.*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pWx7N8gSoY


* The best dance, because he ends the dance with telling his listeners where to go.
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Walker wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:39 pm Rather than New-Hollywood crazy-psycho dance,

This fella is Old-Hollywood crazy-good dance.*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pWx7N8gSoY


* The best dance, because he ends the dance with telling his listeners where to go.
Love this clip. Exquisite acting here. People think actors are so much better now, but I would have to disagree.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:18 pm Love this clip. Exquisite acting here. People think actors are so much better now, but I would have to disagree.
Huston speaking in the role of himself …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02OQ_axlk0
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:28 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:21 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:50 pm
Where is the dance?
For the motionless staring at electronic screens, dialogue is as much a dance as images flickering across the retina, both are simulation stimulation. (Careful though, some of the ladies wear clod-hoppers and will step on your toes.)

Yes, lactic acid. The JOY of dining on raw meat, although I’ve heard that even animals prefer the flavours of cooked meat, likely there's a chemical reason that makes all the difference.
Yes, only cooking and marinating tenderises meat.
Terror and torture is not a culinary advantage.
I've explained why predators like to play and likely why psychos do too.
Conclusions:

- The beauty of a dance is determined by the perfection of moving form.
- Psycho-dancing replaces beauty with suffering to corrupt dance.
- Crazy-good dancing replaces suffering with goodness, and celebrates with dance.
- Quality of form plus necessity of a particular form equals natural selection in the dance world.
- The measure of the quality of a movement is defined by fidelity to the movement’s purpose.
- The measure of the quality of form is defined by uncorrupted design.
- Synchronized moving forms indicate design of movement.
- Design indicates designer …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2e9acreKmQ
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Walker wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:43 pm
Sculptor wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:28 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:21 pm
For the motionless staring at electronic screens, dialogue is as much a dance as images flickering across the retina, both are simulation stimulation. (Careful though, some of the ladies wear clod-hoppers and will step on your toes.)

Yes, lactic acid. The JOY of dining on raw meat, although I’ve heard that even animals prefer the flavours of cooked meat, likely there's a chemical reason that makes all the difference.
Yes, only cooking and marinating tenderises meat.
Terror and torture is not a culinary advantage.
I've explained why predators like to play and likely why psychos do too.
Conclusions:

- The beauty of a dance is determined by the perfection of moving form.
Yes, but also the beauty of the dancer. A thing which is shockingly subverted in Silence of the Lambs
- Psycho-dancing replaces beauty with suffering to corrupt dance.
The subvertion here challenges out sense of beaty and invites us to consider that violence and suffering can be beautiful to the abuser.
- Crazy-good dancing replaces suffering with goodness, and celebrates with dance.
- Quality of form plus necessity of a particular form equals natural selection in the dance world.
Not sure this means anything.
- The measure of the quality of a movement is defined by fidelity to the movement’s purpose.
- The measure of the quality of form is defined by uncorrupted design.
- Synchronized moving forms indicate design of movement.
- Design indicates designer …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2e9acreKmQ
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Walker wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:48 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:18 pm Love this clip. Exquisite acting here. People think actors are so much better now, but I would have to disagree.
Huston speaking in the role of himself …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02OQ_axlk0
How extraordinary. He's the 'dancing old man' in that scene? And he sounds like a posh Englishman.
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:53 pm Yes, but also the beauty of the dancer.
Walker - The beauty of a dance is determined by the perfection of moving form.
Sculptor - Yes, but also the beauty of the dancer.*
Walker - The measure of the quality of form ** is defined by uncorrupted design.

* Frozen Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzzEFSc28OY

"quality of form," refers to both moving and frozen form.
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Walker:
- Crazy-good dancing replaces suffering with goodness, and celebrates with dance.
- Quality of form plus necessity of a particular form equals natural selection in the dance world.

Sculptor:
Not sure this means anything.

Walker:
The first sentence goes with another sentence.
- Psycho-dancing replaces beauty with suffering to corrupt dance.
- Crazy-good dancing replaces suffering with goodness, and celebrates with dance.

The second sentence is a reference to the selection of dancers in the clip from All That Jazz, which makes Bob Fosse a designer of that world orchestrating the natural selection process; a creator of sorts.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:08 pm How extraordinary. He's the 'dancing old man' in that scene? And he sounds like a posh Englishman.
Huston was a sophisticated professional to the craft, like his son and grandkids.

Like John Wayne. The Duke was sharp enough to create a persona of mannerisms such as his walk and posture, which were no accident. You can tell it’s the Duke by the shape of his shadow.

Intelligence can ape a dummy, but a dummy can’t ape intelligence unless he has minimal dialogue, and the audience has already bought into the illusion. Example: Biden.

The John Wayne Walk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjRSbswVk9g
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Walker wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:19 am
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:53 pm Yes, but also the beauty of the dancer.
Walker - The beauty of a dance is determined by the perfection of moving form.
Sculptor - Yes, but also the beauty of the dancer.*
Walker - The measure of the quality of form ** is defined by uncorrupted design.

* Frozen Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzzEFSc28OY

"quality of form," refers to both moving and frozen form.
Are you saying that the beauty of the dancer is not part of the perfection of the moving form?
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