To be a full human being one must have 2 qualities - Wisdom and Love

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To be a full human being one must have 2 qualities - Wisdom and Love

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one without the other is like "Faith without Works"- "its dead Jim"


I know i have love, and stive for wisdom. I think man is good overall - so has love, but most lack wisdom.

a dog beaten by his master sstill loves his master (I would hate mine - so maybe i lack love?), while a computer may have all the answers and have wisdom, but lack love - whcich is better?

not sure - either way its half a man imo.


-----so not a full human.

other things like charaisma, personality, charity, etc are important too - but not as much as the above 2 items.

a man with full love and wisdom and no personality nor charisma is more man than a charismatic socialpath.


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In a civilized land of shifting sand
Where everyone is a Me
The least harmful compassion you may ever see
Is benevolent impartiality
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condemning non full humans must be lovely

-Imp
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gaffo wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:40 am one without the other is like "Faith without Works"- "its dead Jim"


I know i have love, and stive for wisdom. I think man is good overall - so has love, but most lack wisdom.

a dog beaten by his master sstill loves his master (I would hate mine - so maybe i lack love?), while a computer may have all the answers and have wisdom, but lack love - whcich is better?

not sure - either way its half a man imo.


-----so not a full human.

other things like charaisma, personality, charity, etc are important too - but not as much as the above 2 items.

a man with full love and wisdom and no personality nor charisma is more man than a charismatic socialpath.


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What a completely hateful thing to suggest.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Bloody Fascist!
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Walker wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:39 am In a civilized land of shifting sand
Where everyone is a Me
The least harmful compassion you may ever see
Is benevolent impartiality
indeed - sadly.

sort of like - would your prefer your ex-wife killing your for hating you are a robber killing you for 2 buck.

one is personal the other not.........

so i think you are on to something here ;-(
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:37 pm
gaffo wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:40 am one without the other is like "Faith without Works"- "its dead Jim"


I know i have love, and stive for wisdom. I think man is good overall - so has love, but most lack wisdom.

a dog beaten by his master sstill loves his master (I would hate mine - so maybe i lack love?), while a computer may have all the answers and have wisdom, but lack love - whcich is better?

not sure - either way its half a man imo.


-----so not a full human.

other things like charaisma, personality, charity, etc are important too - but not as much as the above 2 items.

a man with full love and wisdom and no personality nor charisma is more man than a charismatic socialpath.


2 cents
What a completely hateful thing to suggest.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Bloody Fascist!
YES!!!!!!!!!! all hail Fascists!

and i am ashamed of my fascism ;-(.

crying in my beer right now in fact.
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Impenitent wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:23 pm condemning non full humans must be lovely

-Imp
yes and tasty - i love drinking the blood of half humans the morning - better than coffee even.

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gaffo wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:38 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:39 am In a civilized land of shifting sand
Where everyone is a Me
The least harmful compassion you may ever see
Is benevolent impartiality
indeed - sadly.

sort of like - would your prefer your ex-wife killing your for hating you are a robber killing you for 2 buck.

one is personal the other not.........

so i think you are on to something here ;-(
Death isn't as much the issue as is those disabling sucker punches from both intimates and strangers when least expected ... impartiality to licking and biting, impartiality to nirvana and samsara and all the presents that appear under the tree, to observe the landscape, equanimity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VllfUmKzNg8
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not a dave matt fan, but that was good.

better is Nanci Nevins/Sweetwater

old 19th century slave song - mothrles child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26b5CMMzdcw

and the immortal and not know in america

the late great Sandy Denny/Fairport convention

who knows where the time goes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSABfJWqh38


best rock music was the late 60's/early 70's - then a drought from 75-90 - thne "alternatvie rock return to save proper rock - like throwing Muses, Juiana Hattfield, Foo Fighter.................

then......................then........

RAP took over and killed rock once and for all.

today i can oly think of one or two good rick bands:

Billy Strings - Pschyc rock bluegrass fusion - yep solds wierd, but its good.

and Balck mountian - refer to their Wucan and Rollercoster songs as good.
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gaffo wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:40 am I think man is good overall...
Hmmm.

Well, explain that to a Holocaust survivor. Or a rape victim. Or a Uighur in a Chinese camp. Or somebody who's been through the media Inquisition recently. Or somebody whose livelihood and business has been burned to the ground in a riot he had nothing to do with...
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:54 am
gaffo wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:40 am I think man is good overall...
Hmmm.

Well, explain that to a Holocaust survivor. Or a rape victim. Or a Uighur in a Chinese camp. Or somebody who's been through the media Inquisition recently. Or somebody whose livelihood and business has been burned to the ground in a riot he had nothing to do with...
glass half full or empty i gues.
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Sandy Deny - who no one knows about - wrote her song at only 15 yrs of age:

another great talent that no ons knows about did a good cover (of course she like Sandy died young - all the greats have to die young it seems)


Kate Wolf's cover of sandy's song:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +time+goes

Wolf's most famou ("Famous" - she never got famou) song is "Accross the great divide"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +time+goes

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PS honourable mention to another now forgotten great - who of course died young - Judee Sill' "The Kiss"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +time+goes
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gaffo wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:07 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:54 am
gaffo wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:40 am I think man is good overall...
Hmmm.

Well, explain that to a Holocaust survivor. Or a rape victim. Or a Uighur in a Chinese camp. Or somebody who's been through the media Inquisition recently. Or somebody whose livelihood and business has been burned to the ground in a riot he had nothing to do with...
glass half full or empty i gues.
If only it were so much as half....
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"Full human" to me smells of "true metal" --there are some silly heavy metal fans who argue over whether particular bands are "true metal."

In my view, basically if you have human DNA, you're human. There are no "full" versus "not full" humans.
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