Well, we got some disagreement here, Nick
let me list 'em...
*there ain't no collective freedom...a man is free...he is the atom
There may be no collective freedom but at the same time can a society have the goal of creating free people as opposed to indoctrinated slaves
*god (my god, anyway) doesn't own us.
But if inner freedom is only possible with the help of grace then without grace we are slaves to what denies the goal of inner freedom. This is a very deep Christian question Paul describes in Romans 7
So if I come to experience that I am a slave to the human condition, It is only with the help of grace that inner freedom becomes possible. So I am a slave to sin and a slave to God. Which direction to choose is my choice.14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
*the election, and who gets the Big Chair, is a symptom of sumthin' that's been brewin' in 'murica for a long time: the latest iteration of the conflict that's been at play since -- as I say-- before man fell out of the trees
it's all about the free man vs the slaver
it's that black & white, that simple
How do we find a free man who is not a slave to sin? Plato called them philosopher kings and it is these people who should govern America. Obviously we end up being ruled by the power hungry ones who believe "might makes right". What else is possible for a secular society?