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[Luxin]

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[Dontaskme]

The Jinn is nothing more than perceived negative energies believed to be real. These energies have no more reality or substance to them than the energy experienced during a nightmare appearing in sleep.

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[Luxin]

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[Age]

They can't be seen
but they are real;
With hands these things
we cannot feel.

[ Goddess Sarasvati ]

What or who are the jinn?

People.

[Dontaskme]

The Jinn is nothing more than perceived negative energies
believed to be real. These energies have no more reality or
substance to them than the energy experienced during a
nightmare appearing in sleep.

[ Goddess Sarasvati ]

Dear angel, thank you for your response.

Perception is that of the senses including
the sixth sense, mind.

Whatever a sane and healthy person in full
possession of all their natural faculties --
and not high on drugs -- perceives to be
real is real. God/Nature has designed
us so that if we perceive something that
means it's something real, whether it's visible
or not.

A truck one perceives as being close to hitting
one is best not dismissed as unreality. Denying
the evidence of our senses is inadvisable.

I would like to know your concept of perception.
Perhaps then I might understand why you
conceive that something that is perceived may
not actually be real, as indicated in your quote extract,
"perceived negative energies believed to be real."


Philosophy lacks excitement; Reason brings satisfaction; games bring excitement.
There are Reality and games; one may have one, not both. (Goddess Sarasvati)

A perception can be an idea of something that cannot be seen but is thought to exist for real when it doesn’t. In reality, any objective thing that is believed to exist when its nothing more than just an idea of your own making manifesting via the imagination is just an irrational unwarranted fear of something that Is just not there.

For example, if one believes that there is a monster living under their bed which comes out at night to haunt you while you are sleeping..and that this monster really does feel like it actually exists for real in the mind of the believer, because the believer is the one personally creating it, then this is seen as nothing more than the extraordinary power of the believing brain.

A truck on the other hand, is already an object known within the consciousness, and so the truck is an appearance of consciousness that knows cause and effect...consciousness already knows the truck can harm you if it runs over your body, that’s just part of the actual real consequences of cause and effect, known to consciousness via the actual direct experience, unavoidably so.

[Luxin]

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[Luxin]

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[Dontaskme]

Reality of Jinn according to the Quran and Hadith - Quran Explorer
Jinn and angels are the supernatural creatures of Almighty Allah. Unlike humans, jinn are the invisible beings, and humans have no such powers to see them, they are invisible to naked human eye.

So the what and who are the Jinn...are Not people.

Probably more likely to be just negative energies...namely, demonic energies that prance around in spirit form, namely, imagined things that do not actually exist except as believed or imagined.

[zinnat13]

Jinn are demigods as mentioned in Quran and other Islamic litrature. But their status is not similar as we think of angels in Christianity but lower than that.

It is said that a jinn has a power of 40 humans and a zinnat has of 40 jinns. Unlike humans, both of jinns and zinnats are made of smokeless blue fire while humans are made of clay and angels of light.

By nature, jinns are considered to be tricky, naughty and wicked by nature but zinnats are humble, wise and Allah fearing. It is said that there was once a time when both of jinns and jinnats were used to live alongside with humans here on earth but during the time of prophet Muhammad they were forbidden from any kind of human interaction. Having said that both of these still live on earth but in a seperate and parrell dimension. They look like humans but have more powers and a very long livespan. According to my knowledge, which is true, jinnats have a livespan of 15 to 20 thousands years. They still have a physical body, takes birth, get old and die too, and have all types of societal interaction like humans.

With love,
Sanjay

[Age]

Reality of Jinn according to the Quran and Hadith - Quran Explorer
Jinn and angels are the supernatural creatures of Almighty Allah. Unlike humans, jinn are the invisible beings, and humans have no such powers to see them, they are invisible to naked human eye.

So the what and who are the Jinn...are Not people.

When 'you' are able to SEE thee actual Truth of things, then you will SEE just how 'people', themselves, ARE NOT VISIBLE, and this ARE INVISIBLE beings.

Until then BELIEVE whatever 'you' want to BELIEVE.

Probably more likely to be just negative energies...namely, demonic energies that prance around in spirit form, namely, imagined things that do not actually exist except as believed or imagined.

[Age]

Jinn are demigods as mentioned in Quran and other Islamic litrature. But their status is not similar as we think of angels in Christianity but lower than that.

It is said that a jinn has a power of 40 humans and a zinnat has of 40 jinns. Unlike humans, both of jinns and zinnats are made of smokeless blue fire while humans are made of clay and angels of light.

Humans,
Human beings, and
People ARE different things.

Some are visible, while some are NOT.

Thus WHY some are said to be made of some things, while others are made of different things.

By nature, jinns are considered to be tricky, naughty and wicked by nature but zinnats are humble, wise and Allah fearing. It is said that there was once a time when both of jinns and jinnats were used to live alongside with humans here on earth but during the time of prophet Muhammad they were forbidden from any kind of human interaction. Having said that both of these still live on earth but in a seperate and parrell dimension. They look like humans but have more powers and a very long livespan. According to my knowledge, which is true, jinnats have a livespan of 15 to 20 thousands years. They still have a physical body, takes birth, get old and die too, and have all types of societal interaction like humans.

With love,
Sanjay

[Dontaskme]

Reality of Jinn according to the Quran and Hadith - Quran Explorer
Jinn and angels are the supernatural creatures of Almighty Allah. Unlike humans, jinn are the invisible beings, and humans have no such powers to see them, they are invisible to naked human eye.

So the what and who are the Jinn...are Not people.

When 'you' are able to SEE thee actual Truth of things, then you will SEE just how 'people', themselves, ARE NOT VISIBLE, and this ARE INVISIBLE beings.

Until then BELIEVE whatever 'you' want to BELIEVE.

Probably more likely to be just negative energies...namely, demonic energies that prance around in spirit form, namely, imagined things that do not actually exist except as believed or imagined.

People are invisible beings according to thee actual truth of things stated here, that a “you” has to SEE...ok then Age, if that’s what you believe, then fine.

But I don’t believe that.

[bahman]

[ Goddess Sarasvati ]

The background information you may need to answer this is at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_and_cone

They can't be seen
but they are real;
With hands these things
we cannot feel.

[ Goddess Sarasvati ]

What or who are the jinn?

Luxin says, " If you solve this our hats will be off to you forever ! "

The Beloved
slipped through
the cracks;
The deceiver got stuck.

The best of all true things
Is a true heart.
Without truth no happiness,
though you try
a million tricks.
(Sakhi 64, Kabir)

There is an spiritual reality different from our universe containing creatures who knows everything. They can manupluate us. This is done by reading our mind and putting thoughts in our minds. It is very difficult to know the truth from false. They are very powerfull.

[Age]

Reality of Jinn according to the Quran and Hadith - Quran Explorer
Jinn and angels are the supernatural creatures of Almighty Allah. Unlike humans, jinn are the invisible beings, and humans have no such powers to see them, they are invisible to naked human eye.

So the what and who are the Jinn...are Not people.

When 'you' are able to SEE thee actual Truth of things, then you will SEE just how 'people', themselves, ARE NOT VISIBLE, and this ARE INVISIBLE beings.

Until then BELIEVE whatever 'you' want to BELIEVE.

Probably more likely to be just negative energies...namely, demonic energies that prance around in spirit form, namely, imagined things that do not actually exist except as believed or imagined.

People are invisible beings according to thee actual truth of things stated here, that a “you” has to SEE...ok then Age, if that’s what you believe, then fine.

But I don’t believe that.

Okay, so how do 'you' define the word 'people'?

By the way, I do not believe that also.

And, why did 'you' say; "you" 'has to' SEE? Why the necessary 'has to'?

[Age]

[ Goddess Sarasvati ]

The background information you may need to answer this is at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_and_cone

They can't be seen
but they are real;
With hands these things
we cannot feel.

[ Goddess Sarasvati ]

What or who are the jinn?

Luxin says, " If you solve this our hats will be off to you forever ! "

The Beloved
slipped through
the cracks;
The deceiver got stuck.

The best of all true things
Is a true heart.
Without truth no happiness,
though you try
a million tricks.
(Sakhi 64, Kabir)

There is an spiritual reality different from our universe containing creatures who knows everything.

Who and/or what is the 'our' in "our universe", and, how does this 'thing' supposedly 'own' 'its universe'?

WHY is the 'spiritual reality', supposedly, 'different' from 'the Universe'?

How many 'creatures' are there who 'you' propose know everything?

They can manupluate us.

Being able to manipulate adult human beings is about one of the easiest and simplest things to do.

This is done by reading our mind and putting thoughts in our minds.

This completely and utterly WRONG conclusion is a PRIME EXAMPLE of WHY manipulating adult human beings is SO SIMPLE and EASY.

To PROVE HOW and WHY that conclusion is SO WRONG all I have to do is just ask the clarifying questions;
Who and/or what are 'they', which you say can manipulate 'you', human beings, to you?
How many of 'them' exist, to you?
What is the 'mind', to you?
How is 'your' 'mind' read, to you?

Plus there are other clarifying questions, which could be asked.

It is very difficult to know the truth from false. They are very powerfull.

KNOWING what is actually True from what is actually False is about one of the most simplest and easiest things to do, that is; once you learn HOW TO.