henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
no matter how much you want to deny this fact.
I do deny it, cuz it ain't a fact
So, you deny being under the control of a government and the society that you live in, okay.
This is just more PROOF of just how much in DENIAL you really are in.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
we do have very different views of what 'freedom' actually means.
yep
So, you accept that your claim is wrong then, correct?
Also, it is noted that you, once again, will NOT answer my clarifying questions.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
there is a LOT MORE that needs to be explained, and understood fully, first, before this can be fully understood.
then: make with explanin'
WHY?
Do you accept that you could be WRONG, and so what to learn and understand MORE?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
Did 'you' ASSUME that most, if not all, see things the same way as you do?
nope
Again noted is your refusal or inability to CLARIFY what you actually mean.
Your answer here also contradicts what you have previously claimed to be true.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
If EVERY one was like these, supposed, ones like 'you' who do not do wrong, then this human being created 'world' would be PERFECT, correct?
never said I do no wrong; the world is not a human creation; perfection is a pipe dream
ONCE AGAIN, you will NOT answer the ACTUAL question posed, to you.
I NEVER said the world is a human creation.
'Perfection', like absolutely EVERY thing else, is relative.
What is a 'pipe dream'?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
If they SAY that they own their guns for defense, (which is EXACTLY what you say you own guns for), then they are on the EXACT SAME "page" as you, correct?
nope
what the say and do are two different things; what I say and do are the same
LOL It is ALWAYS the "other".
If what you say and do are the same ALWAYS, then I would be VERY SURPRISED.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
we're not on the same page
Obviously, if you BOTH say that you BOTH do the SAME thing, for the SAME reason, then you are BOTH on the EXACT SAME "page", as they say. So, what I said is accurate and correct.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
So, your "explanation" for owning guns is for defense, correct?
defense, huntin', for the pleasure of shootin', cuz a whole whack of folks don't like it, etc.
then that is NOT their fault at all, is it?
you're takin' expressions literally
you: computer or autistic?
i am neither. But i have autism.
Do you realize that we are in a philosophy forum, which is not necessarily the place to speak metaphorically nor figuratively?
Also, if you do NOT mean what you write and say here, then WHY say AND write it here?
Philosophy revolves around 'truth' and/or 'what is true', so I suggest if some one is going to say and/or write things that actually are 'NOT true', then a philosophy forum is NOT the best place to write and say things that are not true or not meant.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
Absolutely EVERY thing is relative to the observer.
nope
fire is always fire no matter who observes it
Well you misinterpreted and/or misconstrued what I actually said, and then twisted and distorted it around completely and utterly.
What is 'fire'?
And who and/or what EXACTLY is this definition relative to?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
this
everything is relative nonsense is mind-poison
ONCE AGAIN, this is MORE PROOF that ABSOLUTELY EVERY thing is relative, to the observer.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
absolutely ANY thing can be put into a context, to 'try to' "justify" just about ANY thing.
nope
some things (slavery, for example) are wrong all the time
Yet here you are A SLAVE to your society, and government.
Also, you treat "others" as though you are 'their' master and they are 'your' slave.
But, OBVIOUSLY, this is NOT true, correct?
Also, ONCE AGAIN, of MORE misconstrued and/or misinterpretation of what I actually said, and meant. But this might be because you do NOT take what I express, literally.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
So, thee actual Truth IS 'No'.
as I reckon freedom: my kid is free
Okay.
You are FREE to 'reckon' whatever you want to 'reckon'.
This is HOW and WHY 'you', adults, 'try to' "justify" your obviously WRONG behaviors.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
Just like 'you' are NOT allowed to do whatever you like.
I do as I choose...I deliberate, I self-regulate
Yes this is OBVIOUS.
You ALSO are NOT allowed to do whatever you like.
You have been 'programmed', since birth, to do and behave in a particular way, which you DO without FULLY realizing WHY you DO 'it'.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
there ain't no leash on me
LOL Like I say; You are FREE to BELIEVE whatever you WANT to BELIEVE.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
'
you' are BOTH constrained by the government/society in which you live in.
as I say: there's always folks lookin' to leash others...their desire is not synonymous with success
But I do NOT know WHY you would say this here, now.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
'
you', human beings, are NOT as 'free' as you would like and wish to be, in the days of when this is being written.
speakin'n for me and mine: we're free
Okay. But like you say 'you' and 'I' have different definitions of what it means to be 'free'.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
are you OPEN to the fact that you could be doing, because you are being told to by "others"?
nope, cuz it ain't a fact
Okay.
Now here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of just how CLOSED one is while they BELIEVE some thing to be true.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
I have NOT provided ANY evidence, YET.
well, get to it then
I do NOT have to. The ones who make the slave states provide the actual EVIDENCE and PROOF.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
those who are NOT YET able to back up and support their claim/s
like you
And what is this is reference to EXACTLY?
Just because I might NOT do some things, in this forum, then this has absolutely NO bearing AT ALL if I am able to do that thing or not.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:15 pm
the 'constrained morality'
my morality doesn't constrain: it frees
OBVIOUSLY you are NOT constrained by your OWN morality. And, just as OBVIOUS is you are actually constrained by the morality of the society in which you live.