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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am
gaffo wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:19 am I've never been to Cuba myself. You have! so tell me of your observations of that land.
Well, what you notice immediately is that everybody essentially lives at a similar level...a very low level. Not starvation, but not a lot better. Everything's dirty and run-down...even Havana itself. All the cars are old and cobbled together. The cement is falling off the buildings. The beaches are beautiful. But just about nothing else really is. But the people think they're doing about as well as they could, because the government does all it can to keep them from realizing otherwise.

And there's no real industry, since the sugar plantations closed. You're not allowed to own a boat, unless you are tied closely to the government, because they know you're likely to take it about 90 miles north, one way, and jump off in Key West. You're not allowed to start many businesses, so there's a large black market...but most of the available goods are not what North Americans would call worth having. Running a business there is nearly impossible, because the government interference will get you, if the sense of entitlement of the workers doesn't kill your business, in itself.

There's no beef to be had, at all. In fact, it's a criminal offence to slaughter a cow. There's a little pork, and some chicken...not of great quality. A dozen eggs...very hard to come by. The cooking is low on spices and flavour. There are two brands of beer in the whole island, both from the same brewery. And, of course, there's rum. Theft is a serious issue. The justice system is horrible, and jails are wretched.
thanks for informing me. i suspect what you said, but never been there - not a Fidel nor Batista fam - one capitalist thug equils the other socialist/communist sort (refer to that great Who song).

I've never been there, you have - we both are objective in mindset, and so i thank you for your cogent observations per cuba.


Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am And you notice that people are desperate for a job in the tourist industry, where many work 36 hour shifts, with no sleep...because people who work in that industry get some scraps of crappy food left over from the tourists, and a little more access to money than people who don't work near tourists. So you can't afford to lose a job in the tourist zones, and the government can make you work as long and hard as they want, and you can do absolutely nothing about it.
is this so? if so, uncool thuggery by gov, per persons working in tourism. if what you say is true (no reason to doubt you) - i find it reprehensible.

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am There are no supplies of basic things. Medicine is in short supply. Equipment is poor or unavailable. Refrigerators, tractors, cars, air conditioners...all very hard to get, with waiting lists years long. Nothing is in abundance.
as i suspected. thanks for your observations.

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am Nowadays, they have a gasoline shortage, since they relied on Venezuela, another badly mismanaged socialist economy that has collapsed. So you can imagine how many problems that causes...no generator fuel, nothing to power cars or motorbikes, and so on.
I had no idea they have a gas shortage, and again thanks for the education. (as you know mainline media has no interest in educating, just maximising division for add revinue.

-- what is the State/s per Lybia - 8 yrs post civil war? (not a Kadfia appologist - fully supported his death and thier war over there - my point is MSM does no follow up - i know there are at least 2 states there in that land (but prob more?)

and Somalia? - the last time i heard about that land was fukcing 25 yrs ago!!!!!!!!!!!! - and some such via the Eptheoplians via the African States coalition what 10 yrs ago taking control of part of "somaliland" - point being is MSM is crap.

what is the state/s of Lybia and somalia? - what are the "city states" lands and what is has been happeing in those lands the last 2 decades?

silence via the media!!!!!!!! - and i value education - i'd like to know what "countries" are existing in both Lybia and Somalia today - but i have no source to educate me on the matter (no thanks to MSM).

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am I've been in quite a few worse countries, where poverty is really grinding and miserable.
I'd honestly welcome your discussion of those nations you visited.

per myself, it only visited England, Wales, Scottland, Canada and Mexico. all yrs ago.

I can give you my obserservations of those nations per my visiting them if you like.

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am But Cuba, at its best, is one level above that, and several levels below the poverty level in North America. There's misery, but in Cuba, it's pretty equally distributed in the general rural population. In other poor countries, it's more unequal -- some people in poverty and misery, and some richer.
yep of course - the more "right" the gov the more unequal wealth distribution.

most ignorant folks thinks that Saudi Arabia is populated by oil shieks, they had no clue that 1/5 of population lives in poverty, and why there is a grass roots via the poor there to overthrow the gov and instill a Taliban types rule over SA (the gov is most Taliban now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so lol - no difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - yes and no/ no difference per 95 percent of Saudis (poor = poor pre or post fish faced Salmon (trying to be cute - Prince so and so is a good looking guy - though full on asshole/killer(cut off finders of your critic in a foriegn land before finally offering mercy by killing/then desicrate the dissmembered corpse via trashbags/city dump in Turkey). buy yes a difference (Gov of SA is Wahhabist! why? originally cultural history - today? (I suspect to pacify the 20percet mad as hell and poor) - i.e the gov of SA plays "devout Wahhabist" while robing peter (the 20 percent poor of SA) - in order to not have a replay of 1789 France (I'd welcome that replay myself).

you get my point SA folks - 1/5 of them see "let them eat cake" via their Goverment, so they are not all wealthy sheiks! - far from it!

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am But then, many of those countries have a base poverty level well above the normal living level of Cuba. And in Cuba, there's very little evidence of any wealth at all.
ok, thanks for the education Sir! welcome future discussions.
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gaffo wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:30 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am And you notice that people are desperate for a job in the tourist industry, where many work 36 hour shifts, with no sleep...because people who work in that industry get some scraps of crappy food left over from the tourists, and a little more access to money than people who don't work near tourists. So you can't afford to lose a job in the tourist zones, and the government can make you work as long and hard as they want, and you can do absolutely nothing about it.
is this so? if so, uncool thuggery by gov, per persons working in tourism. if what you say is true (no reason to doubt you) - i find it reprehensible.
Yep, it's true. I talked to people who were "dead on their feet," after one of these long shifts, but still desperate to stay on duty, because it's the only route to a little extra food and a few privileges for their family.

Sad. Totally sad.
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am I've been in quite a few worse countries, where poverty is really grinding and miserable.
I'd honestly welcome your discussion of those nations you visited.
There are a bunch of them -- South America, Central America and Africa included.
per myself, it only visited England, Wales, Scottland, Canada and Mexico. all yrs ago.
I've not been to Scotland or Wales, but have seen quite a bit of the others you list.

And, of course, various US states.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:53 pm
gaffo wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:30 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am And you notice that people are desperate for a job in the tourist industry, where many work 36 hour shifts, with no sleep...because people who work in that industry get some scraps of crappy food left over from the tourists, and a little more access to money than people who don't work near tourists. So you can't afford to lose a job in the tourist zones, and the government can make you work as long and hard as they want, and you can do absolutely nothing about it.
is this so? if so, uncool thuggery by gov, per persons working in tourism. if what you say is true (no reason to doubt you) - i find it reprehensible.
Yep, it's true. I talked to people who were "dead on their feet," after one of these long shifts, but still desperate to stay on duty, because it's the only route to a little extra food and a few privileges for their family.

Sad. Totally sad.
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:03 am I've been in quite a few worse countries, where poverty is really grinding and miserable.
I'd honestly welcome your discussion of those nations you visited.
There are a bunch of them -- South America, Central America and Africa included.
per myself, it only visited England, Wales, Scottland, Canada and Mexico. all yrs ago.
I've not been to Scotland or Wales, but have seen quite a bit of the others you list.

And, of course, various US states.
thanks for reply. short story about Wales - northern area - Holly head-ish, folks would talk to me in Welsh assuming by my looks i was Welsh (my great great grandmother - one of 4 - was lol) - via my light complexion. I just said sorry, i know only english, then they would talk to me in a language i understood.

it was weird thinking in my mind "i am in a foriegn land" while others - aparently via my look - assume i was in my native land!!!!!! (I don;t think way - so for me as see anyone - black/brown/white/green walking down the sidewalk in from of my house as American - like me.

so via that experience i now see others are not always as open minded, so the "black experience" is real - "go back you your country" ("but i was born here!!!!!!!!") - no mater to the narrowminded)
sadly,


BTW you i agreed with my via of Amos (pride is bad, do not wish for Day of YHWH) - but you differ with my view of Jonah and Job, you have not discussed how we differ on those two works.

nor have you offered your top 3 works you value most in the "Bible" and why so.

I'd like to discuss those things Sir.
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Im guessing you all dont like him as a person and not as a president. because if you really watched the news, he's the best we've ever fucking had.

America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.

Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.

The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.

Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.

More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million.

Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.

The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.

Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.

Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those

without a high school diploma all reached record lows.

Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.

Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.

Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.

Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.

The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.

Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.

African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.

Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.

Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.

Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.

The DOW closed above 20,000 for the first time in 2017 and topped 30,000 in 2020.

The S&P 500 and NASDAQ have repeatedly notched record highs.

Signed an Executive Order on Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products, which is bringing innovative new

technologies to market in American farming and agriculture.

Strengthened America’s rural economy by investing over $1.3 billion through the Agriculture Department’s ReConnect Program to bring high-speed

broadband infrastructure to rural America.

An October 2020 Gallup survey found 56 percent of Americans said they were better off during a pandemic than four years prior.

During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1 percent – the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.

Since coronavirus lockdowns ended, the economy has added back over 12 million jobs, more than half the jobs lost.

Jobs have been recovered 23 times faster than the previous administration’s recovery.

Unemployment fell to 6.7 percent in December, from a pandemic peak of 14.7 percent in April – beating expectations of well over 10 percent unemployment through the end of 2020.

Under the previous administration, it took 49 months for the unemployment rate to fall from 10 percent to under 7 percent compared to just 3 months for the Trump Administration.

Since April, the Hispanic unemployment rate has fallen by 9.6 percent, Asian-American unemployment by 8.6 percent, and Black American unemployment by 6.8 percent.


He might not be a good character to some of you, but i feel like what we need isn't a politician in power, we need just a motherfucker that's going get shit done

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/tr ... lishments/
plenty of more here
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:09 am BTW you i agreed with my via of Amos (pride is bad, do not wish for Day of YHWH) - but you differ with my view of Jonah and Job, you have not discussed how we differ on those two works.
It's been a long while. I no longer recall our discussion, to be honest.
nor have you offered your top 3 works you value most in the "Bible" and why so.
Well, it's hard to say. One is attracted to different things as one goes through life. What was most informative to you at one phase is less pressing than another at a different stage.
I'd like to discuss those things Sir.
We seem to be a long way off the original topic of this thread, though...and lest we both be chastized for hijacking the discussion, perhaps you'd be willing to start a new thread dedicated to whatever question or issue you are meaning.

Fair enough?
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