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Julian Schnabel

Paintings are not like the Internet. They're not like movies. They're not electronic-friendly. You have to go see them. You have to stand in front of them. That's the great thing about them.


Only the good paintings of course.

I think not knowing what to think of your paintings is a good place to be.

Next up: not knowing what to think here.

It doesn't matter what I think I am, it matters what I do.

Though now and then the two might actually be connected.

I work with things left over from other things.

And then it's other things all the way down.

Painting is like breathing to me. It’s what I do all the time. Every day I make art, whether it is painting, writing or making a movie.

The best of all possible worlds let's call it.

I think it's good when people don't write good things about your work. I mean, what a great compliment it is to be called a charlatan.

Sure, he might mean it. Ironically, for example.
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Isaac Newton

What goes up must come down.


And, as we now know, not just apples.

He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.

Let's pray he's right.

You have to make the rules, not follow them.

You tell me.

To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age.

Yo, Mr. Pinhead!

I have studied these things -- you have not.

Enough said?

In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence.

Okay, but not necessarily your God.
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:31 pm
He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.
Stephen Hawkin didn't believe in God, and it can hardly be said that he was a half hearted thinker. Thinking was all he did.
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Harbal wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:51 pm
Isaac Newton wrote:
He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.
Stephen Hawkin[g] didn't believe in God, and it can hardly be said that he was a half hearted thinker. Thinking was all he did.
Okay, but thinking about God will only get you so far. Eventually you have come up with a way to connect your thoughts to actual evidence that God either does or does not exist.

Same with Newton. It's not what he believed about God "in his head" that intrigues me, but what he himself was able to demonstrate empirically such that I might myself be able to believe in the existence of God.

Anyone here know what that evidence might be?

And then [for me] this part:

"..an endless procession of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and tornadoes and hurricanes and great floods and great droughts and great fires and deadly viral and bacterial plagues and miscarriages and hundreds and hundreds of medical and mental afflictions and extinction events...making life on Earth a living hell for countless millions of men, women and children down through the ages"

God and theodicy.
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:27 pm
Okay, but thinking about God will only get you so far. Eventually you have come up with a way to connect your thoughts to actual evidence that God either does or does not exist.

Same with Newton. It's not what he believed about God "in his head" that intrigues me, but what he himself was able to demonstrate empirically such that I might myself be able to believe in the existence of God.

Anyone here know what that evidence might be?

And then [for me] this part:

"..an endless procession of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and tornadoes and hurricanes and great floods and great droughts and great fires and deadly viral and bacterial plagues and miscarriages and hundreds and hundreds of medical and mental afflictions and extinction events...making life on Earth a living hell for countless millions of men, women and children down through the ages"

God and theodicy.
Some people believe in God, and wouldn't even consider doing otherwise, while others are determined to be atheists no matter what. But if you fall into neither of those categories, why even bother to come to a decision? We know the world, nature, the Universe functions according to consistent principles, or laws, what does it matter whether God put them in place or they came about some other way?
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Harbal wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:41 pm
iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:27 pm
Okay, but thinking about God will only get you so far. Eventually you have come up with a way to connect your thoughts to actual evidence that God either does or does not exist.

Same with Newton. It's not what he believed about God "in his head" that intrigues me, but what he himself was able to demonstrate empirically such that I might myself be able to believe in the existence of God.

Anyone here know what that evidence might be?

And then [for me] this part:

"..an endless procession of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and tornadoes and hurricanes and great floods and great droughts and great fires and deadly viral and bacterial plagues and miscarriages and hundreds and hundreds of medical and mental afflictions and extinction events...making life on Earth a living hell for countless millions of men, women and children down through the ages"

God and theodicy.
Some people believe in God, and wouldn't even consider doing otherwise, while others are determined to be atheists no matter what. But if you fall into neither of those categories, why even bother to come to a decision? We know the world, nature, the Universe functions according to consistent principles, or laws, what does it matter whether God put them in place or they came about some other way?
I'll take this here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=34260
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:58 pm

I'll take this here:
Well I was only thinking about the idea of God, religion is another matter. I imagine all the different religions that have existed throughout human history, as well as the current ones, have all had some sort of moral code. So if we are considering God in the context of morality, which religion should we look at?
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tiny nietzsche

lol but also sob


Ah, the pinheads!

with enough pressure and heat, you can quit anything

Living for example.

and if the band you're in starts playing nazi tunes, tell them to fuck off

Or, okay, sure, Commie tunes.

remember a while back? I don't

My guess: for better or worse.

I'm not sure what my default settings are

Only that they're rooted in dasein.

is it better than nothing?

Is what better you might ask.
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Willem de Kooning

I'm not interested in 'abstracting' or taking things out or reducing painting to design, form, line, and color. I paint this way because I can keep putting more things in it - drama, anger, pain, love, a figure, a horse, my ideas about space. Through your eyes it again becomes an emotion or idea.


You tell me: https://www.google.com/search?q=Willem+ ... =625&dpr=1

I have to change to stay the same.

Why do people say things like this, he wondered.

Every so often, a painter has to destroy painting. Cezanne did it, Picasso did it with Cubism. Then Pollock did it. He busted our idea of a picture all to hell. Then there could be new paintings again.

Wow, not unlike busting philosophy, he thought.

I don't paint to live, I live to paint.

You know, when it's not the other way around.

The trouble with being poor is that it takes up all your time.

Who doesn't get this?

The attitude that nature is chaotic and that the artist puts order into it is a very absurd point of view, I think. All that we can hope for is to put some order into ourselves.

And then the part about dasein.
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Geraldine Brooks

You go on. You set one foot in front of the other, and if a thin voice cries out, somewhere behind you, you pretend not to hear, and keep going.


Like you pretend not to hear me.

God warns us not to love any earthly thing above Himself, and yet He sets in a mother's heart such a fierce passion for her babes that I do not comprehend how He can test us so.

The occasional father's heart too.

If there is one class of person I have never quite trusted, it is a man who knows no doubt.

The occasional woman too.

Book burnings. Always the forerunners. Heralds of the stake, the ovens, the mass graves.

On the other hand, we all have books we'd toss on the fire ourselves.

...The hagaddah came to Sarajevo for a reason. It was here to test us, to see if there were people who could see that what united us was more than what divided us. That to be a human being matters more than to be a Jew or a Muslim, Catholic or Orthodox.

...etc, etc, etc..

If a man is to lose his fortune, it is a good thing if he were poor before he acquired it, for poverty requires aptitude.

He wondered if his own did.
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Philosophy Tweets

"A wise man does not chatter with one whose mind is sick." Sophocles


On the other hand, I hope you will cut me some slack in making fools of them.

"I would prefer even to fail with honor than win by cheating." Sophocles

Wow, that takes us back.

"You must trust and believe in people or life becomes impossible." Anton Chekhov

How's that working out for you?

“They say philosophers and wise men are indifferent. Wrong. Indifference is a paralysis of the soul, a premature death.” Anton Chekhov

Wrong.

"Doctors are the same as lawyers; the only difference is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you too." Anton Chekhov

Hell, even I wouldn't go that far.
On the good days.


"Unhappy the land that is in need of heroes." Bertolt Brecht

Also, the philosophy forums.
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Edward Abbey

Saving the world is only a hobby. Most of the time I do nothing.


The new idealism.

We are slaves in the sense that we depend for our daily survival upon an expand-or-expire agro-industrial empire—a crackpot machine—that the specialists cannot comprehend and the managers cannot manage. Which is, furthermore, devouring world resources at an exponential rate. We are, most of us, dependent employees.

"And we still have Hell to look forward to."

Paradise is not a garden of bliss and changeless perfection where the lions lie down like lambs (what would they eat?) and the angels and cherubim and seraphim rotate in endless idiotic circles, like clockwork, about an equally inane and ludicrous -- however roseate -- unmoved mover. That particular painted fantasy of a realm beyond time and space which Aristotle and the church fathers tried to palm off on us has met, in modern times, only neglect and indifference passing on into oblivion it so richly deserved, while the paradise of which I write and wish to praise is with us yet, the the here and now, the actual, tangible, dogmatically real earth on which we stand.

I guess that'll have to do, right? Unless we still have Hell to look forward to.

Grown men do not need leaders.

Next up: grown women.

But of the seven deadly sins, wrath is the healthiest - next only to lust.

Ah, the real world.

What we need now are heroes and heroines, about a million of them...

Our heroes of course.
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Werner Twertzog

American airports are important for teaching the bourgeoisie what it is like to be homeless.


Lessons learned?

And then I said, "Your building sucks, Rem Koolhaus, if that is your real name."

What else could he say?

It is important to go "above and beyond" so that you will not blame yourself when you are fired.

Besides, the bosses like that.

Of the Yeti I have known, many have a dark sense of humor.

Pick one:
1] Genes
2] Memes


Meta-performing the meta-performative is exhausting, as we all know.

Is this a Zuck thing?

So the lady at the Suicide Hotline said that I have a pretty good argument.

Then get it done.
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Say there, iambiguous. Uh, what's all this about that you're doing?
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Good is good to the last drop, and bad is bad to the bone.


(Coffee commercial + George Thorogood)
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