Atla, I may have misquoted you, but I seem to have recalled this. I am too busy right now to go back, to research and check, but if I made mistake by misquoting you, I apologize.
I agree with you. I may add that Logic has no logic or reason issues, but he is also influenced, it seems to me and this is my personal opinion, by some psychologocial imbalances. Then again, who isn't. I believe that it is only in the amount and type of imbalance that we differ from each other as psychological beings.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:31 amThey are obviously not the same person but both are obviously smart, the difference is, for me, that JohnDoe cannot apply his smarts so is lost in his own mind swirl and Logik isn't.-1- wrote:"...And there was an old man, who lived in the greenwoods, and nobody knew him, or what he had done, but mothers would say to their children, beware of mad John..."
Atla said in this thread that he had figured JohnDoe7 and Timekeeper/Logik were the one and the same person. However, this remark here by you reminds me why I never did think so. One sign is that JohnDoe7 did leave an exhaustive history of his life, and of his current state of affairs, in a post a long time ago, within a year or two. But T/L was relentlessly elusive.
The other is a bit harder for me to prove... but I always sensed an air of honesty and frankness in JD7's posts. He or she never was trying to trick anyone, s/he just presented his or her theorems and theories, which were (in my opinion) incomprehensible due to his or her lack of using consensus-approved math and logic symbols. But s/he was never two-faced, s/he never did a face-about, s/he never aimed to trap people. Whereas those things were typical of T/L. Furthermore, JD7 stays on a given topic, and is happy to exhaust it... while T/L goes from topic to topic, and a conversation with him/her is never ending. He proves himself wrong or nonsensical in those long conversations, or in the least, he either contradicts himself or introduces quotes that are inconsequential to the topic. JD7 never does that. In fact, these trends are so tightly typical, and without any crossover, that I am convinced JD7 and T/L are not the same one person, while I admit that TK and L may be.
My point was that it doesn't take understanding to make posts like he did. Using gooogle search and wikipedia and even google translate one wouldn't even need to understand the language. Stuff a bot could do.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:26 amWell yes, he admitted to it but so what?
What is your point?
What is a genuine philosopher?
Same as a genuine duck, but different.By and large he made reasonable sense to me if you understand that he was promoting a or his philosophy and his links were generally apposite to what he was saying.I tried to engage with him to see where he was coming from.. but I couldn't find anything. When probed on his posts he would usually shift the topic somewhat with some wordy statement and couple it with some random link.. which I would never follow. It seemed to me that he would just string words together in a fairly haphazard manner as though asking other people to try to make sense of them. ...If he was then we pretty much have AI.As I said to him one time.. that he seemed to know a lot but understand nothing.
So I concluded that his posts were without merit and not worth pursuing.
PS In the bots thread in the lounge, I suggested that there might be contributors to this forum who were actually bots... it was Logic that I was thinking of.
A post is after the fact. Post wot? Post man?Logik wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:01 pm 1. Obtain a temporary e-mail address at https://www.guerrillamail.com
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That'll be because they were my words.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:No sign of who you are responding to here. It also creates a huge mess when it comes to responding to you with all your little bits everywhere. No telling who wrote what.
Ah! Altiars rule the world!!!!!!!! ...........and 1998.........er no............2001...........er no 2006.............um.............no.............2010.............no................um 2017..........erum............no............Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:15 pm Ah! Well, I better bin that Msc in Foundations of Advanced I.T. and forget all about the years spent working in the computer industry starting from being a mainframe computer operator before PC's were around.
Hi foghorn, i don't have a BA in Philosophy, but would like an honest cretic(sp - dylexic) of myself (per philosophy) via you.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:15 pm Well the thing is that my paltry BA(hons) in Philosophy allows me to grade the philosophy bullshitters and Logik is at a pretty good grade compared to many here. "...
Well that is an interesting notion.. to grade contributors...Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:15 pm Well the thing is that my paltry BA(hons) in Philosophy allows me to grade the philosophy bullshitters
The irony is of epic proportions. If I don't stop laughing soon I am probably going to shit myself.
I guess -1- is a Troll then.
nice quip - not really and so not worth reply -as you and i know.
So Logik has no logic or reason issue, but you still insist he has some 'psychologocial imbalance'...-1- wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 9:42 am...I may add that Logic has no logic or reason issues, but he is also influenced, it seems to me and this is my personal opinion, by some psychologocial imbalances. Then again, who isn't. I believe that it is only in the amount and type of imbalance that we differ from each other as psychological beings.
Uhhh...noone is forcing you here at gunpoint. You are just angry because...well you are convinced what you do is important and valuable and noone really cares.Logik wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:01 pm 1. Obtain a temporary e-mail address at https://www.guerrillamail.com
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Wow...I am flattered -1-...with the compliments...I think.-1- wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 7:10 pm"...And there was an old man, who lived in the greenwoods, and nobody knew him, or what he had done, but mothers would say to their children, beware of mad John..."
Atla said in this thread that he had figured JohnDoe7 and Timekeeper/Logik were the one and the same person. However, this remark here by you reminds me why I never did think so. One sign is that JohnDoe7 did leave an exhaustive history of his life, and of his current state of affairs, in a post a long time ago, within a year or two. But T/L was relentlessly elusive.
The other is a bit harder for me to prove... but I always sensed an air of honesty and frankness in JD7's posts. He or she never was trying to trick anyone, s/he just presented his or her theorems and theories, which were (in my opinion) incomprehensible due to his or her lack of using consensus-approved math and logic symbols. But s/he was never two-faced, s/he never did a face-about, s/he never aimed to trap people. Whereas those things were typical of T/L. Furthermore, JD7 stays on a given topic, and is happy to exhaust it... while T/L goes from topic to topic, and a conversation with him/her is never ending. He proves himself wrong or nonsensical in those long conversations, or in the least, he either contradicts himself or introduces quotes that are inconsequential to the topic. JD7 never does that. In fact, these trends are so tightly typical, and without any crossover, that I am convinced JD7 and T/L are not the same one person, while I admit that TK and L may be.
