So, it’s not okay to keep trashing the United States and its president on the basis of unsupported opinion that carries not even a whiff of philosophy?AMod wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:02 pm Oh! I get what you're asking about now. So no, I'm not inclined to allow specific posts about spates between users. Keep it to PM - bearing in mind of course what I've said about those.
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p.s. and btw I don't think playing politics is about intentionally lying.
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"So, it’s not okay to keep trashing the United States and its president on the basis of unsupported opinion?"
Of course it is!
You can fling poop at the U.S. and that post or thread will stand.
If you defend the U.S. that post or thread will fall.
You can fling poop at Trump and that post or thread will stand.
If you defend Trump (or criticize his predecessor) that post or thread will fall.
We're in enemy territory...always have been.
Of course it is!
You can fling poop at the U.S. and that post or thread will stand.
If you defend the U.S. that post or thread will fall.
You can fling poop at Trump and that post or thread will stand.
If you defend Trump (or criticize his predecessor) that post or thread will fall.
We're in enemy territory...always have been.
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Henry, you're not supposed to say that!
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Worse that can happen: post is deleted and/or I'm banned.
Big fuckin' whoop.
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The saving grace is that we can understand why certain topics are rejected. Take the "Alinsky Rules for Radicals thread" for example. Why can't it be discussed? It furthers techniques leading to the political philosophy called communism. Why can't it be criticized by those favoring human freedom? What prevents it?henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:15 pm "So, it’s not okay to keep trashing the United States and its president on the basis of unsupported opinion?"
Of course it is!
You can fling poop at the U.S. and that post or thread will stand.
If you defend the U.S. that post or thread will fall.
You can fling poop at Trump and that post or thread will stand.
If you defend Trump (or criticize his predecessor) that post or thread will fall.
We're in enemy territory...always have been.
Look at what is happening in America. The radical violent left is perpetrating crimes against innocent people so as to intimidate them. It is acceptable. Yet if a conservative tells a typical stereotyping joke you'll never hear the end of it. Why? IMO understanding why is very revealing.
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Excellent work Nick, you really proved you can resist vomiting those American culture wars everywhere you write.Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:46 pm Look at what is happening in America. The radical violent left is perpetrating crimes against innocent people so as to intimidate them. It is acceptable. Yet if a conservative tells a typical stereotyping joke you'll never hear the end of it. Why? IMO understanding why is very revealing.
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Yet when I look at philosophy forums there's still plenty of philosophy discussed. Hardly false advertising.
However, when one calls the dinner's hostess a "liar" (amongst multiple other epithets and ad hominems) then, if one is realistic, then one might not be surprised to find that one is no longer invited to dinner.
Wouldn't one agree?
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By and large the only people who are doing this are Americans and the only people who actually keep posting about America are Americans as you appear to have an inncessent need to compare yourselves to others. Over time I have allowed your compatriots to post many derogatory statements about other countries, it depends where it is posted but what I'm specifically bored with is Americans fighting their current political battles upon this forum. As I've now said too many times now, if you want to fight your politics out online go to a politics forum.Walker wrote: So, it’s not okay to keep trashing the United States and its president on the basis of unsupported opinion that carries not even a whiff of philosophy?
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Nothing prevents it but as soon as it falls into Americans arguing their politics then it'll be gone. It would also be useful if you didn't start it with a mischaracterization.Nick_A wrote:The saving grace is that we can understand why certain topics are rejected. Take the "Alinsky Rules for Radicals thread" for example. Why can't it be discussed? It furthers techniques leading to the political philosophy called communism. Why can't it be criticized by those favoring human freedom? What prevents it?
Take it up on an American politics forum then.Look at what is happening in America. The radical violent left is perpetrating crimes against innocent people so as to intimidate them. It is acceptable. Yet if a conservative tells a typical stereotyping joke you'll never hear the end of it. Why? IMO understanding why is very revealing.
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No, you are a liar. What you've said about me isn't true. Your trouble is you equate the purpose of philosophy with political philosophy. You think your attacks on Trump and the great ideas given to the world by those like Plato are philosophical. They are not and you have no idea why.Greta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:18 amYet when I look at philosophy forums there's still plenty of philosophy discussed. Hardly false advertising.
However, when one calls the dinner's hostess a "liar" (amongst multiple other epithets and ad hominems) then, if one is realistic, then one might not be surprised to find that one is no longer invited to dinner.
Wouldn't one agree?
IMO it is an important distinction those like you oppose. That is why I will start a thread on the difference for those still open to the distinction. The sad part is that those like you will never understand it. Blind denial will prevent it and only serve the degeneration of philosophy.
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AMod wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:29 amNothing prevents it but as soon as it falls into Americans arguing their politics then it'll be gone. It would also be useful if you didn't start it with a mischaracterization.Nick_A wrote:The saving grace is that we can understand why certain topics are rejected. Take the "Alinsky Rules for Radicals thread" for example. Why can't it be discussed? It furthers techniques leading to the political philosophy called communism. Why can't it be criticized by those favoring human freedom? What prevents it?Take it up on an American politics forum then.Look at what is happening in America. The radical violent left is perpetrating crimes against innocent people so as to intimidate them. It is acceptable. Yet if a conservative tells a typical stereotyping joke you'll never hear the end of it. Why? IMO understanding why is very revealing.
AMod.
In all fairness the heading for the Political Philosophy board should be changed to read.Political Philosophy
How should society be organised, if at all?
Moderators: AMod, iMod
Excluding the American constitution and the ideal of freedom, how should society be organized if at all?
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Why be superficial? An open minded person with an interest in philosophy sees a basic contradiction spawned by hypocrisy. The philosophic mind as opposed to the indoctrinated seeks to understand the big picture - the why of it as it relates to the human condition. The indoctrinated person is only concerned with the duality of their agenda.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pmExcellent work Nick, you really proved you can resist vomiting those American culture wars everywhere you write.Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:46 pm Look at what is happening in America. The radical violent left is perpetrating crimes against innocent people so as to intimidate them. It is acceptable. Yet if a conservative tells a typical stereotyping joke you'll never hear the end of it. Why? IMO understanding why is very revealing.
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Thank you for making clear why you will never be invited back, just in case anyone wasn't already aware.Nick_A wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:43 amNo, you are a liar. What you've said about me isn't true. Your trouble is you equate the purpose of philosophy with political philosophy. You think your attacks on Trump and the great ideas given to the world by those like Plato are philosophical. They are not and you have no idea why.Greta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:18 amYet when I look at philosophy forums there's still plenty of philosophy discussed. Hardly false advertising.
However, when one calls the dinner's hostess a "liar" (amongst multiple other epithets and ad hominems) then, if one is realistic, then one might not be surprised to find that one is no longer invited to dinner.
Wouldn't one agree?
IMO it is an important distinction those like you oppose. That is why I will start a thread on the difference for those still open to the distinction. The sad part is that those like you will never understand it. Blind denial will prevent it and only serve the degeneration of philosophy.
Bye! Have fun with your American politics and anti science agendas.
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Are you really trying to piss me off?Nick_A wrote:In all fairness the heading for the Political Philosophy board should be changed to read.Political Philosophy
How should society be organised, if at all?
Moderators: AMod, iMod
Excluding the American constitution and the ideal of freedom, how should society be organized if at all?
You are welcome to discuss the philosophical consequences of written and unwritten constitutions using the American constitution as an example. You are welcome to discuss the philosophical consequences of the American constitution and the ideal of freedom as it has been applied to your society or could be applied to another's society. In fact you are welcome to discuss any philosophical aspect of your constitution but what you are not welcome to do is use your political interpretation of it to play politics with your countrymen on this forum. As in all fairness you should be doing this on a politics forum and preferably an American one.
AMod.