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........................................................... In most people, dreams are their avenue of escape. My dreams, they tie me.





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Please excuse me, but I have to ask. Is this about dreams, the goals and aspirations of conscious people, or dreams, the nocturnal activity of unconscious people?

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You're dead nuts on.

I know what you are asking & I realize what you are saying.






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Bill Wiltrack wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:36 pm In most people, dreams are their avenue of escape. My dreams, they tie me.

Hi Bill, nice to see you back. I enjoy your thought provoking ideas.

How this one here interprets your OP is thus...

The first part is that people try to imagine their way of the unavoidable rawness that is life / reality ....that they them self did not choose to participate in...so they attempted to escape reality by inventing their own reality via dreams as a way to escape the one imposed upon them.

The second part is the people who then owned their dreams, then find them selves having to live up to a certain standard, an image, an expectation that they may have set too high for them self, that they have to continually maintain, which is not a relaxing and free way to live, so by owning their dream they are doing the complete opposite of what their original goal is which is to be free.

That's my way of looking at it anyway...

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........................................................Yes, you are right. Have you experienced this within your own life?





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Bill Wiltrack wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:52 am Yes, you are right. Have you experienced this within your own life?

Yes Bill, outwardly in the world of forever changing and fading duality I have experienced this as my own life. But inwardly I am always resting at zero point, that cannot fade, and is always here....I have never left zero point place because I have never entered it. I AM IT.

It is my true being the immutable un-conscious self in which all my apparent waking dreams appear and disappear.

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Thank you Bill...grace is with you always.

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....................................................................and...obviously, with you.




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Bill Wiltrack wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:15 am
You're dead nuts on.

I know what you are asking & I realize what you are saying.

I'll admit that as I am thinking of OP, I am lost in reverie about embarrassingly rich compensation for being a philosopher.

Most of the time, I just aspire to have pleasant dreams.

//common sense uncommonly sensed

Bill Wiltrack wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:15 am You're dead nuts on.

I know what you are asking & I realize what you are saying.

If you know what he is asking (and a five year old would know that too), and you realize what he is saying, why don't you ANSWER him for crying out loud.

He is asking you the easiest question in the world. Not answering him is outright rude, if you ask me.

He asked a normal question... you owe him a normal answer. Instead, you are being coy.

Are you some sort of a nut job?

And what's with all these spaces?

If you answer me also like an idiot, I'm putting you on Iggi.

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Good luck to everyone here. LISTEN for & to your intuition.

Stay frosty. BE philosophical.




...oh, & just for future reference, nobody did ask you.






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