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The early bird gets the worm. In school, in business, in the trades or in philosophical discussion, when is it important to get there first? Is this an effective strategy for success?

However, the second mouse gets the cheese. When is it a good idea to observe before acting? What can be learned by watching others go first? How long should one wait to be involved?
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commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:20 pm The early bird gets the worm. In school, in business, in the trades or in philosophical discussion, when is it important to get there first? Is this an effective strategy for success?

However, the second mouse gets the cheese. When is it a good idea to observe before acting? What can be learned by watching others go first? How long should one wait to be involved?
The moral of the system is to always work in groups so someone else can act as a shield.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:20 pm However, the second mouse gets the cheese. When is it a good idea to observe before acting? What can be learned by watching others go first? How long should one wait to be involved?
Penguin colonies. They sleep on ledges of ice or land. When they all wake up, they are hungry. They waddle to the edge of the solid they stand on to the water, and stare at it. There may be hungry walruses there, then again, there may not be. Penguins can't see that, but they sense there is fish, or hope there is. There are fish, maybe, and there are walruses, also maybe. Then entire colony stands there, contemplating. Finally one penguin says to him- or herself, "f this", and jumps in. If he reappears with a fish in his beak, everyone jumps in. If he never reappears, the rest of the colony goes back to sleep.

The lesson is that the entire situation is different from a societal perspective, and from an individual's perspective. Society survives in penguin colonies, losing exactly one member, no matter which individual dies in this fashion. The individual who gets eaten by walruses does not survive.
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This penguin mentality, "one dies for the good of the society" was practiced by the ancient Aztecs. They believed that good crop is only possible if humans get sacrificed. No matter which human; but a certain (almost always a low number) of humans.
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-1- wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:23 pm This penguin mentality, "one dies for the good of the society" was practiced by the ancient Aztecs. They believed that good crop is only possible if humans get sacrificed. No matter which human; but a certain (almost always a low number) of humans.
running across a field suspected to be full of planted landmines. It's good to go as "manieth" instead of as "first".
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Which approach would work better for a group working on, say, a school or business project together?
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commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:27 pm Which approach would work better for a group working on, say, a school or business project together?
Neither. I mean, both.

You can't with one blanket statement decide this for all businesses and schools.

Asking that question reveals that you may have spent your entire life so far in complete isolation from human reality.
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if the iron is hot, ask again tomorrow

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Impenitent wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:44 pm if the iron is hot, ask again tomorrow

-Imp
Simply stated and without any assumptions:
Which is better, immediacy or procrastination?
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commonsense wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:38 pm
Impenitent wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:44 pm if the iron is hot, ask again tomorrow

-Imp
Simply stated and without any assumptions:
Which is better, immediacy or procrastination?
reflexively waiting

-Imp
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