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self-ownership

I belong to myself.
4
50%
I do not belong to myself.
4
50%
 
Total votes: 8

commonsense
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Re: self-ownership

Post by commonsense » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:12 pm

I own myself, because:

I can be owned, as I am a thing in and of itself and such a thing is capable of being had,

No one else owns me, as I have free will.

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Sculptor
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Re: self-ownership

Post by Sculptor » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:31 pm

I love these polls.
There is always a third missing option:

3. The poll is meaningless.

How about I own myself because; I am fully determined by the laws of cause and effect.

commonsense
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Re: self-ownership

Post by commonsense » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:40 pm

Sculptor wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:31 pm

How about I own myself because; I am fully determined by the laws of cause and effect.
Point taken, and it’s okay as far as it goes, but I feel that the implication is that I am owned by the laws of physics.

Perhaps I should have stated—nearly the same as you—that I own myself because I have free will as constrained by the laws of cause and effect.

After all, I can choose to run full speed at a brick wall, but I will not sail through it no matter what I choose. Still, it wasn’t physics that guided my unrealistic choice.

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henry quirk
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four to four: tug of war

Post by henry quirk » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:54 pm

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