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Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:53 pm

For me communications is a basic that can benefit anyone. In the US, it had fallen out of favor, but I've read it's starting to come back.

I've always regarded writing as a natural skill, one that's easy to pick up, for me and many others. How about you?

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by ken » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:28 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:For me communications is a basic that can benefit anyone. In the US, it had fallen out of favor, but I've read it's starting to come back.

I've always regarded writing as a natural skill, one that's easy to pick up, for me and many others. How about you?

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Although I agree wholeheartedly that communication is a basic that can, and will, benefit everyone, I find communicating successfully a very difficult skill. I have absolutely no idea yet on how to express what I want to say and have that fully heard and fully understood.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by ForCruxSake » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:44 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote:For me communications is a basic that can benefit anyone. In the US, it had fallen out of favor, but I've read it's starting to come back.

I've always regarded writing as a natural skill, one that's easy to pick up, for me and many others. How about you?

PhilX
In the UK, it is taught but not at all primary schools. Just to get children writing is enough, for some. In 'good' schools cursive is taught but, by the time children leave the sixth grade, some will be writing in a more basic unjoined print. At my son's school they were diligent about the cursive until, the final year when they relaxed and were more concerned with getting them through the SATs, My son still writes in cursive and is legible. Mine can be a bit illegible as I write quickly. People who write in a basic print are usually more legible. Isn't that the point of writing? To be legible? If that's the case, wouldn't it be better to teach basic print? What is the point of cursive? The speed of flow?

What I find interesting is that no individual's handwriting is the same, even though they are being taught a standard script. It's a true expression of how individual we all are.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by thedoc » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:17 pm

I am always amused when I am asked to fill out a form and the instructions say to "print". Occasionally I will point out to the receptionist that I can't print the information, I don't have a printing press, but I can letter the information on the form. I used to teach printing in Jr HS and my wife has worked in a print shop all her life. Also I worked for several years as a draftsman, so I know the difference between printing and lettering.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:26 pm

thedoc wrote:I am always amused when I am asked to fill out a form and the instructions say to "print". Occasionally I will point out to the receptionist that I can't print the information, I don't have a printing press, but I can letter the information on the form. I used to teach printing in Jr HS and my wife has worked in a print shop all her life. Also I worked for several years as a draftsman, so I know the difference between printing and lettering.
I wonder what happens in cases where you have to sign your name such as contracts? Would an X be acceptable?

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by thedoc » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:36 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
thedoc wrote:I am always amused when I am asked to fill out a form and the instructions say to "print". Occasionally I will point out to the receptionist that I can't print the information, I don't have a printing press, but I can letter the information on the form. I used to teach printing in Jr HS and my wife has worked in a print shop all her life. Also I worked for several years as a draftsman, so I know the difference between printing and lettering.
I wonder what happens in cases where you have to sign your name such as contracts? Would an X be acceptable?

PhilX
I believe the situation is that whoever is presenting the document to you needs to witness you signing, if that is done then whatever you use as a signature is legal.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:55 pm

Children in the UK never stopped learning to write.

I find what this thread implies about the US educational system horrifying.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:57 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
thedoc wrote:I am always amused when I am asked to fill out a form and the instructions say to "print". Occasionally I will point out to the receptionist that I can't print the information, I don't have a printing press, but I can letter the information on the form. I used to teach printing in Jr HS and my wife has worked in a print shop all her life. Also I worked for several years as a draftsman, so I know the difference between printing and lettering.
I wonder what happens in cases where you have to sign your name such as contracts? Would an X be acceptable?

PhilX
Only in the USA: where the literacy rate is the lowest in the western world.
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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:00 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
thedoc wrote:I am always amused when I am asked to fill out a form and the instructions say to "print". Occasionally I will point out to the receptionist that I can't print the information, I don't have a printing press, but I can letter the information on the form. I used to teach printing in Jr HS and my wife has worked in a print shop all her life. Also I worked for several years as a draftsman, so I know the difference between printing and lettering.
I wonder what happens in cases where you have to sign your name such as contracts? Would an X be acceptable?

PhilX
Only in the USA, where the literacy rate is the lowest in the western world.
False statement due to the misuse of only.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:07 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
I wonder what happens in cases where you have to sign your name such as contracts? Would an X be acceptable?

PhilX
Only in the USA: where the literacy rate is the lowest in the western world.
False statement due to the misuse of only.

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Says the boy who can't even write his own name.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:10 pm

http://www.livescience.com/3211-14-perc ... -read.html

https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/06/21/50 ... rade-book/

Sadly the same morons have figured out how to vote for that other illiterate moron Trump.
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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:11 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Only in the USA: where the literacy rate is the lowest in the western world.
False statement due to the misuse of only.

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Says the boy whop can't even write his own name.
You don't even know me. And talk about writing, you grossly misspelled who.

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:14 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:http://www.livescience.com/3211-14-perc ... -read.html

https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/06/21/50 ... rade-book/

Sadly the same morons have figured out how to vote for that other illiterate moron Trump.
Those who live in glass houses... :lol:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ebook.html

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:19 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:http://www.livescience.com/3211-14-perc ... -read.html

https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/06/21/50 ... rade-book/

Sadly the same morons have figured out how to vote for that other illiterate moron Trump.
Those who live in glass houses... :lol:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ebook.html

PhilX
No one uses chequebooks anymore. I can't see that article, because I don't subscribe to shit news papers.

This is YEAR 2 national curriculum.
En2/3.2 Handwriting and Presentation


En2/3.2a form lower-case letters of the correct size relative to one another

En2/3.2b start using some of the diagonal and horizontal strokes needed to join letters and understand which letters, when adjacent to one another, are best left unjoined

En2/3.2c write capital letters and digits of the correct size, orientation and relationship to one another and to lower-case letters

En2/3.2d use spacing between words that reflects the size of the letters.

THIS YEAR ONE.
En1/3.2 Handwriting and Presentation

En1/3.2a sit correctly at a table, holding a pencil comfortably and correctly

En1/3.2b begin to form lower-case letters in the correct direction, starting and finishing in the right place

En1/3.2c form capital letters

En1/3.2d form digits 0-9

En1/3.2e understand which letters belong to which handwriting ‘families’ (ie letters that are formed in similar ways) and to practise these

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Re: Can you do cursive writing (US)?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:25 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:http://www.livescience.com/3211-14-perc ... -read.html

https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/06/21/50 ... rade-book/

Sadly the same morons have figured out how to vote for that other illiterate moron Trump.
Those who live in glass houses... :lol:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ebook.html

PhilX
No one uses chequebooks anymore. I can't see that article, because I don't subscribe to shit news papers.
What's the matter? You forgot how to click on a link? :lol:

PhilX

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