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Eodnhoj7
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Re: All Assertions are Simultaneously True and False

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Skepdick wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:32 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:27 am ((P=P)v(P=/=-P)) expresses either the law of identity is true or the principle of non contradiction is true. If one is false, then P=-P either way.
LEM is a tautology. You don't need it - you can derive it from identity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaconescu's_theorem
Not when no choice is present, under the above you have P=-P either way.

Choice theory is a tautology of the observer, as such free will exists through laws which govern it.
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Re: All Assertions are Simultaneously True and False

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:38 am Choice theory is a tautology of the observer, as such free will exists through laws which govern it.
The laws of physics govern the observer. The laws of logic are not laws - they are false gods.
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Re: All Assertions are Simultaneously True and False

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Skepdick wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:56 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:38 am Choice theory is a tautology of the observer, as such free will exists through laws which govern it.
The laws of physics govern the observer. The laws of logic are not laws - they are false gods.
Do you believe in progress by means of the dialectic thesis-antithesis-synthesis except there is no knowable finality?
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Re: All Assertions are Simultaneously True and False

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Skepdick wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:56 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:38 am Choice theory is a tautology of the observer, as such free will exists through laws which govern it.
The laws of physics govern the observer. The laws of logic are not laws - they are false gods.
False, as physics is descriptive it follows under laws of logic or at least is parallel to them.

As to the the laws of logic they negate themselves under their own laws, as such logic is self referential and can maintain itself without an empirical only base.

Physics does not give definition or clarity under choice theory as choice theory necessitates not just a choice in the beginning axioms, physics or logic, but choice theory is suspended from both as it is a means of definition to determine how definition occurs.
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