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The Philosophical Problem is a Problem

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The definition of a problem in itself is a problem as problem is undefined. The problem of definition is the "problem of the problem" where definition of the problem requires a recursive understanding of the problem: the problem is a problem because it is a problem.
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Re: The Philosophical Problem is a Problem

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The easiest way to solve any problem is to ignore it.

Philosophical problems are rarely (if ever) pragmatic problems.
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:40 pm The easiest way to solve any problem is to ignore it.

Philosophical problems are rarely (if ever) pragmatic problems.
Pragmatic problems are rarely if ever pragmatic problems. Pragmatic problems are made up, just like philosophical problems.
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Re: The Philosophical Problem is a Problem

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:42 pm Pragmatic problems are rarely if ever pragmatic problems. Pragmatic problems are made up, just like philosophical problems.
Nah. The "ignore it" strategy is unreasonably effective when applied to philosophical problems.

Pragmatic problems are less forgiving. It is difficult to ignore COVID-19.
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:46 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:42 pm Pragmatic problems are rarely if ever pragmatic problems. Pragmatic problems are made up, just like philosophical problems.
Nah. The "ignore it" strategy is unreasonably effective when applied to philosophical problems.

Pragmatic problems are less forgiving. It is difficult to ignore COVID-19.
COVID 19 was most likely a response to a prior problem as it appears, at least in conspiracy circles, man made.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:47 pm COVID 19 was most likely a response to a prior problem as it appears, at least in conspiracy circles, man made.
It doesn't matter. The point is - you can't ignore organ failure like you can ignore the is-ought gap.
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:49 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:47 pm COVID 19 was most likely a response to a prior problem as it appears, at least in conspiracy circles, man made.
It doesn't matter. The point is - you can't ignore organ failure like you can ignore the is-ought gap.
I am not sure about that considering the is-ought gap is necessary for decision making, decision making related to how the virus itself is treated.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:53 pm I am not sure about that considering the is-ought gap is necessary for decision making, decision making related to how the virus itself is treated.
It seems you are suggesting we OUGHT to treat it. Bad philosopher! Why you keep breaking the rules?!?
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:57 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:53 pm I am not sure about that considering the is-ought gap is necessary for decision making, decision making related to how the virus itself is treated.
It seems you are suggesting we OUGHT to treat it. Bad philosopher! Why you keep breaking the rules?!?
What rules....?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:18 pm What rules....?
The is-ought gap. You crossed it. You are not allowed to.

Obey your master.
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:21 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:18 pm What rules....?
The is-ought gap. You crossed it. You are not allowed to.

Obey your master.
That is the funny thing about philosophy, if you break the rules it still exists.
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Re: The Philosophical Problem is a Problem

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:27 pm That is the funny thing about philosophy, if you break the rules it still exists.
Right! Almost as if the rules don't matter.
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:30 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:27 pm That is the funny thing about philosophy, if you break the rules it still exists.
Right! Almost as if the rules don't matter.
Philosophy is rule creation, rules are means of defining an entity, philosophy is definition creation.
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Re: The Philosophical Problem is a Problem

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:36 pm The definition of a problem in itself is a problem as problem is undefined. The problem of definition is the "problem of the problem" where definition of the problem requires a recursive understanding of the problem: the problem is a problem because it is a problem.
The philosophical problem is a problem. The sheathed knife is a knife. The unfurled flag is a flag. The noxious odor is an odor. The adjectivised thing is always still a thing.

There is nothing more to say, other than that which is not said. All else defies definition since all definitions defy a reality which cannot be accessed except by definition.

Only the problemized problem can be a problem of reality’s definization. The problem is also the solution since only problemized problems can be solved.

That which is a problem is really a question of the mind for consciousness is the question. All questions are answers to questions recursively. Answers are only questions waiting to be asked by consciousness which is the philosophical problem that remains to be solved.
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