All truth knowledge is imagined.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:19 am
(Life) does not need to be known to be what it is.
There is no one here to know.
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There is no one here to know.
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Dontaskme is an imagined known concept. An APPEARANCE of nothing. (Knowledge)daramantus wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:00 am correcting the OP.
Life does not need my posts.
There is dontaskme one here to say about "know" "known" and "what" "is".
That which appears to be unknown may or may not eventually become known.daramantus wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:07 pmNo, you are a troll, you are not imagined, even if we imagine or not, you'd still be trolling here. And in other forums such as skepticforum.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:09 pmDontaskme is an imagined known concept. An APPEARANCE of nothing. (Knowledge)daramantus wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:00 am correcting the OP.
Life does not need my posts.
There is dontaskme one here to say about "know" "known" and "what" "is".
NOTHING is unknowable....it does not exist.
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Nothing is unknowable? Then tell me what is Trump doing in the white house right NOW???? And also tell me who will be the next president and also go to FBI and CIA and solve all their unknowable cases, since nothinh is UNKNOWABLE according to your flawed "wisdom".. And also tell me what is my password, the password that I USE that I know how to log in here and respond to irrational woo, such as yours. C'mon, log into my account, since you know more than you think....
Ever read U. G. Krishnamurti? Here's a PDF book: Thought is Your Enemy
I’ve read a few books of UG....but I’d rather just watch these people on YouTube....have watched also Lisa cairns whom I love, and Tony Parsons ...these 3 people are the only ones that seem able to cut to the bone on this subject in my personal opinion.Reflex wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:58 amEver read U. G. Krishnamurti? Here's a PDF book: Thought is Your Enemy
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm "All truth knowledge is imagined."
What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
You imply that your post has truth to it, as if you have access to some real state-of-affairs of reality - that your words refer to some state-of-affairs in reality itself. Is what you are saying true, or not? If true, then you've contradicted yourself. If not, then you haven't said anything. Per your own definition, you've said nothing, and therefore your words are useless.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pmIt means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm "All truth knowledge is imagined."
What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
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Any concept including true or false is imagined ...for even the concept imagined is an imaginary concept.
All concepts appear and disappear and reappear here now....the here now does not appear or disappear...or change, the here now does not have any concept of itself, yet concepts arise in it, and are of it, and without it, no concept would be possible. The here now takes the shape of the concept, but is not the concept.
The IT in this instant is referred to as the impersonal self...in which all the personal selves aka named /labled things appear and disappear....while IT itself never moved or changed..for it’s everywhere and everything now here nowhere.
This is Nonduality.
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Something can only be false or true for you only. There is nothing outside of you that is not your own projection.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:01 pmYou imply that your post has truth to it, as if you have access to some real state-of-affairs of reality - that your words refer to some state-of-affairs in reality itself. Is what you are saying true, or not? If true, then you've contradicted yourself. If not, then you haven't said anything. Per your own definition, you've said nothing, and therefore your words are useless.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pmIt means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm "All truth knowledge is imagined."
What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
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Any concept including true or false is imagined ...for even the concept imagined is an imaginary concept.
All concepts appear and disappear and reappear here now....the here now does not appear or disappear...or change, the here now does not have any concept of itself, yet concepts arise in it, and are of it, and without it, no concept would be possible. The here now takes the shape of the concept, but is not the concept.
The IT in this instant is referred to as the impersonal self...in which all the personal selves aka named /labled things appear and disappear....while IT itself never moved or changed..for it’s everywhere and everything now here nowhere.
This is Nonduality.
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By saying, "This is Nonduality." you've stated a truth, knowledge, or an imagining, or nothing at all? Why should one believe that this is Nonduality?
What you've provided isn't philosophy. It's crackpottery.
More crackpottery. If there is nothing outside of me that is not my own projection, then that means that you aren't something with ideas. Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:28 pm Something can only be false or true for you only. There is nothing outside of you that is not your own projection.
Believe what you want, what ever is real for you is what you believe...only you are manifesting This..no one else is doing that for you, it’s all your own mind created idea.
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Same goes for my ideas...we’re all creating our own realities simultaneously. Without consciousness, imagination would not be possible, consciousness is without shape or form...takes on every shape and form.
Sounds like a contradiction, only when the formless identifies itself as the form which is transitory...aka imaginary.
It’s a tricky one for the mind.
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Perfect. Then everything you've said isn't true. Everything you've actually said is nothing. I actually agree with you.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pmIt means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm "All truth knowledge is imagined."
What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
My definitions seem to be more useful, and something is only useful if there is some degree of truth to it.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pmIt means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm "All truth knowledge is imagined."
What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
Yes, I am a projection of your consciousness as reflected in your consciousness, appearing as an object outside of you, it’s how the seer sees itself albeit illusory self. For the real self cannot be seen, it is the seer, seeing all there is. It’s consciousness itself.Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Again, everything you say isn't true, per your own words, so I don't understand why you keep posting. What are you actually posting, if not some objective knowledge, or some truth?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:46 pmYes, I am a projection of your consciousness as reflected in your consciousness, appearing as an object outside of you, it’s how the seer sees itself albeit illusory self. For the real self cannot be seen, it is the seer, seeing all there is. It’s consciousness itself.Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Complete.
What else would it need or want?
The mirror of consciousness cannot give you anything, it can only reflect it back at you...You already are it, complete...and perfect.
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It’s true that the knower of self is imagined.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:30 pmAgain, everything you say isn't true, per your own words, so I don't understand why you keep posting. What are you actually posting, if not some objective knowledge, or some truth?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:46 pmYes, I am a projection of your consciousness as reflected in your consciousness, appearing as an object outside of you, it’s how the seer sees itself albeit illusory self. For the real self cannot be seen, it is the seer, seeing all there is. It’s consciousness itself.Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Complete.
What else would it need or want?
The mirror of consciousness cannot give you anything, it can only reflect it back at you...You already are it, complete...and perfect.
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Is there really a seer that sees an illusory self and the real self can't be seen, or is this all not true? Every time you make any statement, you are trying to describe some state-of-affairs, yet according to you, your statements aren't true, so they don't refer to some state of affairs, like a seer not seeing it's real self.