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All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:19 am

(Life) does not need to be known to be what it is.

There is no one here to know.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Impenitent » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:42 am

it truly is...

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:09 pm

daramantus wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:00 am
correcting the OP.

Life does not need my posts.

There is dontaskme one here to say about "know" "known" and "what" "is".
Dontaskme is an imagined known concept. An APPEARANCE of nothing. (Knowledge)

NOTHING is unknowable....it does not exist.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:16 pm

daramantus wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:07 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:09 pm
daramantus wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:00 am
correcting the OP.

Life does not need my posts.

There is dontaskme one here to say about "know" "known" and "what" "is".
Dontaskme is an imagined known concept. An APPEARANCE of nothing. (Knowledge)

NOTHING is unknowable....it does not exist.

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No, you are a troll, you are not imagined, even if we imagine or not, you'd still be trolling here. And in other forums such as skepticforum.
Nothing is unknowable? Then tell me what is Trump doing in the white house right NOW???? And also tell me who will be the next president and also go to FBI and CIA and solve all their unknowable cases, since nothinh is UNKNOWABLE according to your flawed "wisdom".. And also tell me what is my password, the password that I USE that I know how to log in here and respond to irrational woo, such as yours. C'mon, log into my account, since you know more than you think....
That which appears to be unknown may or may not eventually become known.
But that which is unknowable can never be known.

But since only the known is knowable,such knowledge must be imagined, since any knowledge is an appearance of nothing that cannot be known...but only in comparison to the known..which are illusory concepts....apparent appearances of nothing.



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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Reflex » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:58 am

Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:19 am
(Life) does not need to be known to be what it is.

There is no one here to know.
Ever read U. G. Krishnamurti? Here's a PDF book: Thought is Your Enemy

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:06 pm

Reflex wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:58 am
Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:19 am
(Life) does not need to be known to be what it is.

There is no one here to know.
Ever read U. G. Krishnamurti? Here's a PDF book: Thought is Your Enemy
I’ve read a few books of UG....but I’d rather just watch these people on YouTube....have watched also Lisa cairns whom I love, and Tony Parsons ...these 3 people are the only ones that seem able to cut to the bone on this subject in my personal opinion.

Nonduality, once grasped is the peace that passes all understanding...and it’s human nature to want share the love...there is a place of perfect peace but no one lives there....I love that saying..lol..haha.

xxXx MWAH 🙀😻👌

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Trajk Logik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm

"All truth knowledge is imagined."

What does "truth" mean in this sentence?

What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?

And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pm

Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm
"All truth knowledge is imagined."

What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.
What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.
And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.

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Any concept including true or false is imagined ...for even the concept imagined is an imaginary concept.

All concepts appear and disappear and reappear here now....the here now does not appear or disappear...or change, the here now does not have any concept of itself, yet concepts arise in it, and are of it, and without it, no concept would be possible. The here now takes the shape of the concept, but is not the concept.

The IT in this instant is referred to as the impersonal self...in which all the personal selves aka named /labled things appear and disappear....while IT itself never moved or changed..for it’s everywhere and everything now here nowhere.

This is Nonduality.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Trajk Logik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:01 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pm
Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm
"All truth knowledge is imagined."

What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.
What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.
And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.

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Any concept including true or false is imagined ...for even the concept imagined is an imaginary concept.

All concepts appear and disappear and reappear here now....the here now does not appear or disappear...or change, the here now does not have any concept of itself, yet concepts arise in it, and are of it, and without it, no concept would be possible. The here now takes the shape of the concept, but is not the concept.

The IT in this instant is referred to as the impersonal self...in which all the personal selves aka named /labled things appear and disappear....while IT itself never moved or changed..for it’s everywhere and everything now here nowhere.

This is Nonduality.

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You imply that your post has truth to it, as if you have access to some real state-of-affairs of reality - that your words refer to some state-of-affairs in reality itself. Is what you are saying true, or not? If true, then you've contradicted yourself. If not, then you haven't said anything. Per your own definition, you've said nothing, and therefore your words are useless.

By saying, "This is Nonduality." you've stated a truth, knowledge, or an imagining, or nothing at all? Why should one believe that this is Nonduality?

What you've provided isn't philosophy. It's crackpottery.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:28 pm

Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:01 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pm
Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm
"All truth knowledge is imagined."

What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.
What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.
And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.

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Any concept including true or false is imagined ...for even the concept imagined is an imaginary concept.

All concepts appear and disappear and reappear here now....the here now does not appear or disappear...or change, the here now does not have any concept of itself, yet concepts arise in it, and are of it, and without it, no concept would be possible. The here now takes the shape of the concept, but is not the concept.

The IT in this instant is referred to as the impersonal self...in which all the personal selves aka named /labled things appear and disappear....while IT itself never moved or changed..for it’s everywhere and everything now here nowhere.

This is Nonduality.

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You imply that your post has truth to it, as if you have access to some real state-of-affairs of reality - that your words refer to some state-of-affairs in reality itself. Is what you are saying true, or not? If true, then you've contradicted yourself. If not, then you haven't said anything. Per your own definition, you've said nothing, and therefore your words are useless.

By saying, "This is Nonduality." you've stated a truth, knowledge, or an imagining, or nothing at all? Why should one believe that this is Nonduality?

What you've provided isn't philosophy. It's crackpottery.
Something can only be false or true for you only. There is nothing outside of you that is not your own projection.

Believe what you want, what ever is real for you is what you believe...only you are manifesting This..no one else is doing that for you, it’s all your own mind created idea.

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Same goes for my ideas...we’re all creating our own realities simultaneously. Without consciousness, imagination would not be possible, consciousness is without shape or form...takes on every shape and form.

Sounds like a contradiction, only when the formless identifies itself as the form which is transitory...aka imaginary.

It’s a tricky one for the mind.

....because the mind wants to be something other than what it already is...causing a contradiction.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Trajk Logik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:35 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:28 pm
Something can only be false or true for you only. There is nothing outside of you that is not your own projection.

Believe what you want, what ever is real for you is what you believe...only you are manifesting This..no one else is doing that for you, it’s all your own mind created idea.

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Same goes for my ideas...we’re all creating our own realities simultaneously. Without consciousness, imagination would not be possible, consciousness is without shape or form...takes on every shape and form.

Sounds like a contradiction, only when the formless identifies itself as the form which is transitory...aka imaginary.

It’s a tricky one for the mind.

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More crackpottery. If there is nothing outside of me that is not my own projection, then that means that you aren't something with ideas. Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pm
Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm
"All truth knowledge is imagined."

What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.
Perfect. Then everything you've said isn't true. Everything you've actually said is nothing. I actually agree with you.

Thanks for nothing.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Trajk Logik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:45 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:53 pm
Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm
"All truth knowledge is imagined."

What does "truth" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean.
What does "knowledge" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing...or...it means what ever you imagine it to mean....or what ever imagination translates it to mean.
And finally, what does "imagined" mean in this sentence?
It means nothing appears to be something...or it can work the other way around...it means something is being nothing.
My definitions seem to be more useful, and something is only useful if there is some degree of truth to it.

Truth: the degree of accuracy by which any statement refers to some real state-of-affairs.

Knowledge: rules for interpreting sensory data. To say that one knows a language, is saying that one has rules for interpreting particular scribbles and sounds. This accounts for how knowledge can be wrong. It is our rules for interpreting sensory data that are wrong and get updated with new information.

Imagined: Concepts in the mind that have no reference to things outside of the mind.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:46 pm

Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Yes, I am a projection of your consciousness as reflected in your consciousness, appearing as an object outside of you, it’s how the seer sees itself albeit illusory self. For the real self cannot be seen, it is the seer, seeing all there is. It’s consciousness itself.

Complete.

What else would it need or want?


The mirror of consciousness cannot give you anything, it can only reflect it back at you...You already are it, complete...and perfect.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Trajk Logik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:30 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:46 pm
Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Yes, I am a projection of your consciousness as reflected in your consciousness, appearing as an object outside of you, it’s how the seer sees itself albeit illusory self. For the real self cannot be seen, it is the seer, seeing all there is. It’s consciousness itself.

Complete.

What else would it need or want?


The mirror of consciousness cannot give you anything, it can only reflect it back at you...You already are it, complete...and perfect.

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Again, everything you say isn't true, per your own words, so I don't understand why you keep posting. What are you actually posting, if not some objective knowledge, or some truth?

Is there really a seer that sees an illusory self and the real self can't be seen, or is this all not true? Every time you make any statement, you are trying to describe some state-of-affairs, yet according to you, your statements aren't true, so they don't refer to some state of affairs, like a seer not seeing it's real self.

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Re: All truth knowledge is imagined.

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:22 pm

Trajk Logik wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:30 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:46 pm
Rather, you are a projection of me. You only exist with ideas when you come to mind by reading "your" posts (which are really my posts since there is nothing outside of me, which includes you).
Yes, I am a projection of your consciousness as reflected in your consciousness, appearing as an object outside of you, it’s how the seer sees itself albeit illusory self. For the real self cannot be seen, it is the seer, seeing all there is. It’s consciousness itself.

Complete.

What else would it need or want?


The mirror of consciousness cannot give you anything, it can only reflect it back at you...You already are it, complete...and perfect.

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Again, everything you say isn't true, per your own words, so I don't understand why you keep posting. What are you actually posting, if not some objective knowledge, or some truth?

Is there really a seer that sees an illusory self and the real self can't be seen, or is this all not true? Every time you make any statement, you are trying to describe some state-of-affairs, yet according to you, your statements aren't true, so they don't refer to some state of affairs, like a seer not seeing it's real self.
It’s true that the knower of self is imagined.


Self is prior to being known. Then self is known as self becomes aware of itself ...as and through other, it’s own projected self.aka imagined other....aka..the named one using concept...how else could you be known if not for the conceptual knowledge of you?....the real self is inconceivabley conceived in this conception...appearing as a real illusion.

.so self is both real and unreal, true and not true....but no matter how I attempt to explain this...the mind will still find a problem with it...so be it, that’s how this energy dynamic of awareness aware of itself plays out...it’s called nonduality.

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Non/duality..is duality...a divine contradiction.

Dontaskme, Test it out for yourself, but take heed, it will take a lot of hard work and dedication deconstructing the usual nonsense you’ve been conditioned to believe is real. But you can believe what ever you want to believe, it’s your prerogative.
Don’t just take my word for it...test it out for yourself.

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