surreptitious57 wrote:I value thought over belief because it is a discipline interested in trying to understand the universe from as objective a perspective as possible.
Thoughts create reality, belief endorses thought as if thought is actually real. . . beliefs and thoughts are not real, but no one thinks about that...but that's the point, thoughts and beliefs have to be real else reality would not work the way it does, from the human perspective.Without thought or belief we'd all be living without the story of 'me' ...and we'd be no different than a cat or a dog.
However, thoughts, and beliefs, are of a supernatural nature, the human entity does not
make them happen. The human entity has not
made itself. Such happenings are beyond human comprehension...they don't appear to be present in other sentient creatures to the extent they are present in a human...to deny that thought and belief is a supernatural miracle .. is to agree that everything has basically evolved from pond scum by accident, which would imply life is a totally random event that has no meaning nor significance whatsoever and therefore in essence nothing really matters what happens here, it's all just sprang up from total nothingness, there was no designer involved, no intelligence behind anything, it's all just been flung together for no reason other than that's just how it all decided to configure itself, in that that's just what appeared to happen by complete and utter chance. . . Therefore, there can be no such thing as morals, right or wrong, there is no good or bad, there is no love or compassion or empathy, it's okay to hate and kill, because it's all just a cosmic accident... and it's all just a relative senseless idea, that will eventually run it's course until there is total nothingness again...meaning that everything that ever existed including all our words are just meaningless things that have just popped out of thin air.And that when we die it'll all be a blessed relief from the stress and strain of it all.
So if there is no God, then what the heck are we even living for?
surreptitious57 wrote:Whereas belief is more interested in doing this from a subjective perspective that conforms to a pre conceived notion of the entity commonly known as God. A notion that is conveniently non falsifiable meaning it can never be disproven.
Nor can it be proven without a witness presence... that presence is the only SEER, the only KNOWER, the only EXPERIENCER of all that appears ...that witness presence is the absolute seeing, knowing, experiencing.
surreptitious57 wrote:Even so it still makes more sense to be interested in it from an objective perspective and is therefore why I am
An objective point of view cannot prove or disprove the validity of it's truth statement....without a witness presence. That witness presence is without doubt, error or belief...it is the I am aka God.
God is not a ''thing'' but limits it's power as all things. Things simply cannot exist without the witness which is just another name for light...which is just another name for God.
Everything is light don't you know...and there is only one light. I don't think I've ever seen two lights existing apart from each other, not that I've noticed anyway, and I'm pretty good at noticing things, so I can honestly say, I have never seen two sources of light. I haven't even seen one source of light...maybe because I already am the light that is trying to look at itself.
We all know light is good. We like the light, light feels good, especially the sun, we like the sun, and it's warmth, nothing would exist without it, nothing would grow, so it's all goodness, just like God.
So you see, if there was no good God, nothing would be. And we like being..that is self evident.
There is only goodness that is real, because no one like to feel bad, it's just not the way reality works.