When you guys talk about order, you are showing a lot of ignorance, you don't even know what order is, you don't even know how to measure order, and yet, you start talking about things like life like "oh, mistery".mysterio448 wrote:Because life is much more orderly than rocks. Order tends to demand more explanation than disorder.TSBU wrote:Why do life need an explanation and rocks doesn't?
Life isn't more complex than a star. We ARE "rocks" (We, the living creatures, from amoebas to humans, are formed, like everything, by "little balls", well, the movement of ths balls, is what it is, it's guided by "mathematical" rules (you can call that order. And this rules are the same, for every thing in the Universe (everything is ordered, or everything is chaos, but you can't choose both of them, if there is chaos, if there is something that doesn't folow rules, and it interacts with things that follow rules, then those things can't be predicted either, so that rules are not rules).
Life is just a word to express some process, this process is in our heads cause evidently we don't deal in our heads with that tiny balls, it's an abstraction (that is, a simplification). But life, like everything, are that tiny balls. We can do simplifications, we talk about order and not chaos in a sense of knowledge, when we can predict something. Ironically, the more you can make a complex thought, the more simple is the structure you are talking about, you know it better. If there were enough balls crushing each others and you couldn't see any simplification or predict anything, then you wouldn't be able to talk about a new concept or abstraction, it would remain in "chaos" (in your mind), it's "so complex that I can't see any structure, and so, I will give a name to that soup, for example, sun, and my simple concept is going to be... a bunch of balls crushing each other".
We are that tiny balls, more balls= more difficult to predict=more complex.
There is no more mstery in humans than it is in rocks. Or gravity. Why do that tiny balls follow that rules? because they do it. Sooner or later there is a "why" without a because.