You seem to be trying to morph a subjective definition of truth (truth is relative) with an objective definition (truth is absolute).
Yes you are right. I was coming from relative truth perspective. You have continually objected to my suggestion of what truth is, so I asked you to clarify, unsuccessfully I might add, and to explain what truth is. Until you do that I have no idea what you consider truth to be, so my definition could forever be wrong in your eyes.
If you had stated earlier that, from your perspective and in this context, truth is absolute, then I could have come from a different perspective.
yiostheoy wrote:Like I said, argumentum populum is a fallacy and not a criterion of truth in any way.
I have already agreed with your last sentence, and explained why I agree with it. I am not sure why you continue to repeat it.
I was, obviously, coming from the subjective perspective of 'truth'. I was merely stating that 'truth', like every other word and like language itself, is solely a human made concept, i.e., a subject view of what is around them. Subjective truth comes from the way humans look at and see things. If all humans are agreeing, then more relative truth is known. ONLY because there is no person disagreeing with this "truth". Therefore from the subjective truth it is only when ALL human beings agree, then that, what is in agreement, is what this truth is. This truth is changeable.
I was coming from relative truth perspective because there is no such physical thing as truth. "Truth", like every other human made concept, is just a human made construct of everything around them. In fact everything is relative to the observer. If ALL observers are seeing the same and thus are in agreement, then there is no in disagreement.
Obviously objective truth, i.e., absolute truth, is not changeable. Absolute truth can only be discovered, seen and known by being able to look from everything's perspective. I have already discussed this also. Although admittedly clumsily. I have even suggested confusion in humans is caused by looking at these two completely different definitions of truth.
If, and only when, humans put into context and explain what perspective they are coming from, only then will confusion be eliminated.