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Post by David Handeye » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:02 pm

Arising_uk wrote:
David Handeye wrote:what's gnu?
Gnu(noun) - a budding guru, now-a-days most usually found upon the Interweeb seeking acolytes. Can be identified by their utterance of meaningless or contradictory aphorisms and vague and meaningless nonsense about a hidden 'Truth' or 'Reality' always just out of reach. Common traits, an inability to answer sentences with question marks, acute selective reading ability, massive belief confirmation bias, ad-hominen psycho-babble and a complete inability to walk their talk or even talk their walk. Be wary of such beasts. Preventative vaccination advised, i.e. a study of Philosophy, in particular a dose of critical philosophy and Logic as practiced in Philosophy now-a-days.
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Post by Hobbes' Choice » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:02 pm

Arising_uk wrote:
David Handeye wrote:what's gnu?
Gnu(noun) - a budding guru, now-a-days most usually found upon the Interweeb seeking acolytes. Can be identified by their utterance of meaningless or contradictory aphorisms and vague and meaningless nonsense about a hidden 'Truth' or 'Reality' always just out of reach. Common traits, an inability to answer sentences with question marks, acute selective reading ability, massive belief confirmation bias, ad-hominen psycho-babble and a complete inability to walk their talk or even talk their walk. Be wary of such beasts. Preventative vaccination advised, i.e. a study of Philosophy, in particular a dose of critical philosophy and Logic as practiced in Philosophy now-a-days.
Gee and I thought a Gnu was just a big ugly stupid looking animal: just like Bill.

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Post by thedoc » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:20 am

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
David Handeye wrote:what's gnu?
Gnu(noun) - a budding guru, now-a-days most usually found upon the Interweeb seeking acolytes. Can be identified by their utterance of meaningless or contradictory aphorisms and vague and meaningless nonsense about a hidden 'Truth' or 'Reality' always just out of reach. Common traits, an inability to answer sentences with question marks, acute selective reading ability, massive belief confirmation bias, ad-hominen psycho-babble and a complete inability to walk their talk or even talk their walk. Be wary of such beasts. Preventative vaccination advised, i.e. a study of Philosophy, in particular a dose of critical philosophy and Logic as practiced in Philosophy now-a-days.
Gee and I thought a Gnu was just a big ugly stupid looking animal: just like Bill.

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The big difference is that a Gnu looks stupid, Bill actually is. And in that light, Bill certainly walks the walk, and talks the talk, of being stupid.

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:56 am

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None of know where we came from...or why we are here...and of course I don't mean the limited immediate scope of the short answer, your parents.

If we think we understand ANYTHING we can be sure we are wrong.


For some reason, one of the most important things to the intellectual evolution of man are metaphors.


For instance a post here upon a forum is a place where you can temporally tie a thought. Just as an individual would temporally tie a horse to a post.


Any thought; ALL thoughts can be temporally accepted to be correct...or correctly tied to a moment.


Metaphors through language allow us to project a meaning where there actually is none.



Really glad I started this post to revisit my understanding & love of metaphors.


Glad you enjoyed this and I appreciate all the robust responses.







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Post by Arising_uk » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:08 am

See what I mean now? A gnu.
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Post by thedoc » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:21 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
None of know where we came from..
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Of course I know where I've come from, I'm star dust, I come from an exploding star, or several.

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:28 am

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Post by Owen » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:56 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




Yes, I am certain.

The only thing I know for certain is that we cannot know anything.




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Nonsense!
Your remark "The only thing I know for certain is that we cannot know anything.[/size]" is self-contradictory!

To know that you cannot know, is silly at best.

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:20 pm

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Listen, I know EXACTLY what I said.

Look deeper.


Sort-of like a Koan.




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Post by thedoc » Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:06 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Listen, I know EXACTLY what I said.
Look deeper.
Sort-of like a Koan.
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There is nothing like a good Koan, and that was nothing like a good Koan.

I seriously doubt that you understand anything that you think you know.

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Post by Owen » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:56 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




Listen, I know EXACTLY what I said.

Look deeper.


Sort-of like a Koan.

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Listen,
It is clearly impossible to know that you cannot know. It is logically false.
There is a proposition that I know and there is no proposition that I know, is not possible.

Evidently you do not know that you do not understand the proposition.

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Post by David Handeye » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:28 pm

Arising_uk wrote:See what I mean now? A gnu.
seen.

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:27 pm

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I can post. I can't make you understand.

It is telling but I still respect you, appreciate your position, and know you will evolve philosophically.

...perhaps not today, but eventually you will.


All the best
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Post by Owen » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:32 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



I can post. I can't make you understand.

It is telling but I still respect you, appreciate your position, and know you will evolve philosophically.

...perhaps not today, but eventually you will.


All the best
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???

Why can't you say something relevant to the thread???

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Post by Arising_uk » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:32 am

Because he's a gnu.

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