We Are not exactly speaking the same thing. We Are Both talking about different words.Gee wrote:Mark Question;
Please consider the following:
If you go to Wiki and type in "Logical thinking", you will be referred to "Critical thinking", so maybe we are talking about the same thing -- just using different words. I have no problem with Critical thinking. My comments related to logic, pure logic, and it's failings.Mark Question wrote: rationalization,critical thinking,and more methodologies are all part of Logical thinking.
Mark Question wrote:logically proven false is logical Truth.
But that "logical Truth" may not be true, if you do not have all of the facts. Consider that all people understand that one can not live life on a ball; the idea is ridiculous. One needs a flat surface to build a home, to plant a field, and to live life, so the idea that the Earth was a sphere was logically untrue -- besides, people on the bottom would fall off. So it was Logical truth that the Earth was flat.
Eventually we discovered that Earth was a huge sphere, so it appeared flat, and that gravity holds people onto Earth no matter where they live. This was also a Logical truth, but it was more true because it had more facts.
Actually thinking can be guessing, or speculating, or imagining, or fantasizing, or a lot of other things -- it is not necessarily knowledge. Thinking can be right or wrong, it can be truth or lies, so when you compare two things that you are thinking about, you can come up with garbage if your thinking is not based on facts, truth, and/or knowledge.Mark Question wrote:how does one compare unknown is asking how does one compare unthinkable. your knowledge is your thinking.
Logic is only valid when dealing with facts or truths, is useless when dealing with the subjective mind of others, and is useless if the facts are misrepresented or missing. Consider that a computer works with logic, but if you put bad data into a computer, it will spit out the most ridiculous things. A computer is pure logic and has no ability to reason.
like in Mathematic, Logic is All about Abstract relations. "Critical thinking" is basically Only Words with logical relations.
logical Truth is all about following logical rules. logical sentences are always logically true sentences.
unknown or unthinkable means there is no words and no logical relations. no logical truth.
bad data means data without logical relations. semantics are just another symbols with relations.