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Dualism of particle.

Without Einstein's SRT we cannot understand
the dualism of elementary particle.

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Dualism of elementary particle follows from properties of the vacuum (of physical space)
Particular/discrete/local properties are related with regular/discrete structure of the vacuum/aether and wave (field) properties are related with elastic bindings/couplings between space elements. Elementary particles are structural defects in regular (crystal) structure of physical empty space=vacuum=aether... In addition, QM does not distinguish individual particles as separate objects at all. This is consistent with the assumption that such particles are only certain local disorder occured in physical space.

The matter and space are made of one/the same “dough”, and that is the aether...

The laws of conservation of momentum and energy are manifestations of surface tension of (history of) universe. The manifestation of internal ("mechanical") stress in the presence (in "Now"). Horizontal (3-D) tension corrects the momentum and the vertical (4-D, time) tension corrects the energy...

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Consistently applied logic at the physics brings always the problem of physical structure of empty physical space. Reproducibility, mutual interactivity, trans-mutability of elementary particles, that may be generated from clear energy (tension), must be based off of themselves, must be based on a common, shared meta-system *), on locally four-dimensional structure, where one (time) direction is growing out, on physical space properties, on vacuum, on aether structure...

The real world is logical, not mathematical. "Empty space" is nonsense, even in mathematics. "Empty" is only just the abstract empty set. And the "singularities" or "infinities"? They are fictitious, dummy unreachable even in mathematics ... Actual Infinity (or infinitely fine continuum) does not exist in the real world in any form, in any occurrence…

How can the unlimited "Nothing" produce (at the beginning - according the mainstream) only a limited spectrum of elementary particles?! This spectrum is namely encoded in timeless Future that was here even “before" the (cold) BB.

*) the creation of electron / positron pair should be seen as a decay of some super element / superstructure...
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What the next? It seems the Physics has been poisoned by TR for many decades. The most controversial moments of TR are strict determinism (hence stiff, frozen future space-time schema), empty space concept (avoiding aether), wrong antimatter gravity interpretation (missed “gravitational” repulse) and missed gravitaional "magnetism" - the force related with inertial motion. Only positive and helpful concept of TR is limited speed of gravity spreading. Until mentioned controversial theses create the basis of the physics, its paralyzed state will last :(
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One of the biggest problems of today's physics is the concept of the "time". Interested people are unfortunately too infected by basic schema of theory of relativity - by Minkowski space-time. Fascinated by celebrity of A.E. they are unable to realize that the "classic" unlimited timeline axis in our Universe is nonsense. If something like a timeline exists, then it starts at the beginning of the causal Universe, goes on thru frozen / stiff past and it ends at blurry, still not fully causal / still not fixed beginning of the future. The timeline ends at the moment of “now”. We are not able to move from now to anywhere. In the slim, "live" moment of "now", in quantum interactions is just deciding the final arrangement of the past. The “Space-time” is not definitely built here yet. It is permanently being born in acts of quantum interaction. Elementary particles enter here from the future as certain stem (Higg's?) cells, ready to take a final shape, to filling growing past.

The laws of conservation of momentum and energy are manifestations of elasticity of surface tension of (history of) growing universe.

The TR concept of unlimited space-time is useful only for easily expressing of certain (controversial) ideas of theory relativity, but her admirers materialized it as a model of the universe, that puts back the physics of one hundred years ... There are no doubts that the all (for example gravity) is spread by limited speed (according by speed of growth of (history of) universe) but it is only reliable concept of TR :(

In fact, the time is responsible that we can not use the math equations for really exact description of the reality. Consider please equation A=B. We (anything) are not (from the principle) capable to evaluate hence compare both sides of any equation in just same time:( The quantum physics bases on such undoubtable fact -> probability only, waving and catching of the history...

By the way, how all things and kinds of fields can be limited in speed by the same the way? There are no reasonable model to satisfy it, but only very general mechanism regarded to the speed of the growing/construction of Universe... speed of the time.
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The elementary particles are nothing foreign, peculiar in physical space, they are its specific reproducible defects. Hence they are not distinguished in frame of quantum mechanics... They can interfere each other...
Suitable understanding of elementary particles we can get by studying of a "screw dislocation" phenomena. We can imagine the elementary particle with the spin as a some structural deffect of physical space (vacuum) structure, analogical to screw dislocation with Buerger vector parallel to "time axis" (to the Universe growth). As the "solid" (history of) Universe grows, cryslalizes from the "liquid/gas" (not ordered) Future, such deffects are permanently replicated, rises to the new/next time Planck layers, to new time sediments. We are to put off the obscure TR space expansion concept of course. The concept of TR Universe expansion crazily suppose that all information/structure (negative entropy) kept in the future Universe is already saved in the "nothing" at the beginning :(

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Another problem of GTR is incorrect description of antimatter. We can understand the elementary anti-particle just as an opposite structural space-defect to the defect generating common particle. If such particles meet each other, appropriate defects are totally smoothed with freeing some (Wigner) energy (noise, waving), tha same that was (necessary) used for defects creation. Crystal-clear, smooth structure of matter is just physical (history of) empty space/vacuum/aether. Some people can feel lack of the repulsive gravity in present physics. GTR flagrantly omits the antimatter as a most natural source of repulsive gravitation force. There are two possible scenarios: the matter/antimatter are repulsed or antimatter/antimatter are repulsed. Both models comfortably explain lack of massive antimatter in our visible (material) world. Mainly gravitational distraction of antimatter is attractive for studying. But on the other hand there is a model of generation of “magnetic” gravitation by (around) the movement of any mater as an analogy of generation of magnetic filed by moving electrically charge (for example by moving electron). Let us remember now the parallel wires are attracted when they lead parallel electric current. If we suppose that all matter objects are somehow “moved” toward the future, the essence of gravitation force can find strong analogy here. In addition, dual (magnetic) gravity is able to deal “wrong” motion of stars in galaxies (dark-mater problem) by new, fresh way :) Such (magnetic gravity) model but unluckily prefer the second scenario (the matter/antimatter are repulsed). "Magnetic gravity" is unlike "clasic magnetism" unipolar - see galactic jets...
As for dark matter problem, let me to repeat from another thread: Gravitational force simply affect on physical space too. It is probably a reason why physical space keeps together. We can eg see galaxy as certain whirl of viscose blend of space/matter “toward to Future”... Physical space is “dragged” by the mass. Obvious viscosity signifies that space is not “empty” and there even exist shared/common/adhesive parts in the physical space and matter. In fact, the mass is a harmed structure of physical space.
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Let us to stop at another interesting phenomenon: The inertial motion. Imagine an elementary particle that does inertial motion (far from gravitational sources). According to what such particle is oriented? How it can "know" its nex position? How are differ (physically) immediate states of two different moving particles in detail? Where is stored the information that descript the direction and speed of movement of such particle?

Information that describes the elementary particle movement must be saved in their substrate, in physical space as a some kind of strain/tension/stress. Remember we (:I:) consider elementary particle as some defect in regular space structure. Certain strain (in the (4D) particle surrounding) causes (pushes) that the location of the replicated particle in new time layer (sediment) is shifted to another “next” position during every time tic. After all I can see strong analogy of inertial motion to the electro-magnetic waving (photon motion). Moving body (mass) generates (around itself) magnetic gravity that pull body to the new position. It all is doing during every time tic, during permanent adding new (Planck) time layer/sediment to the (history of) Universe, during the growing of Universe.

From another point of view we can see inertial motion as a superfluid motion, as a superconductivity of physical space regarding to the matter (to gravitational charge) (not to electric charge)
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Superconductivity and inertial motion: It is well known that high temperature superconductors mostly have perovskite structure. We can imagine that under critical temperature the electrons cooperate/resonate with waving (phonons) of mentioned structure avoiding the temperature braking of their motion. Phonons of rising temperature but always destroy electron/structure communication “romance” :). It is exciting question how such simple particles (as electrons are) can sensitively “feel” such quite elaborated structure. It is to say that some (for example) metals (in comparison with the others) does not reach superconductivity phase under any condition – it means the electrons/phonons synchronization is not automatic or trivial. It is offered to compare structure of physical space with principle of superconductivity. On the other hand the properties of elementary particles can be apparently changed with rising temperature of space. Now we can return to the beginning. As we (:I:) are quite clear that the space has a limited regular structure *) the begining of our Universe (BB) is possible to explain as certain initial phase transition, the crystalization of common being from the not-ordered "Future"...

*) Some “quantum foam” theories suffer by the same pain as the TR does. It is a raw, brutal “materialization” of the wrong reasoning. Namely the fact “the less time the bigger uncertainty of energy measurement” does not automatically mean that there is some mess in the fine structure of physical space. The Universe is logical, smooth, "economical" and reasonable :)
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The term "information" is seen in the connection with the terms "description", "prescription" or "manual". The description of each structure, inhomogeneity or phenomenon contains information (in some context).

For example, the structure of the spectrum of elementary particles is based on some information ("Universe DNA") apparently stored in the “empty” (physical) space. Or some mathematical discipline (say, the theory of complex variables) represents a structure describable by necessary information (e.g -1 = i * i …). The interesting question is From what size / complexity / structure is matter (brain) (protons, neutrons, and electrons) able to generate / describe / feel such theories, ideas?

(PS: As i have written in another thread, the apperance of a "structure" is somehow conjugated with the phenomenon "time / causality" - every "structure" is gradually build / put in certain order...)

I see information as an imaginary energy /*. This energy comes / condensates (similarly as a real energy - mass) from the "Future" (from a structure behind/outside the time of “now”) **.  It is to say that God "does not play dice", but he/her builds them. In addition I believe the information can flow / penetrate by even opposite direction to time (can be moved in the "unrealised" future) (: toward the God :) If we are finding for something like a Platonic empire of ideas, just the "Future" is offered.

/* Money are a "complex" energy, complex mass, that are attracted each other - the reason of property accumulation/

The mind/thinking can be considered, beside seeing, hearing, touching, as another recieve channel of information....

* If we see the elementary particles as certain structural defects of regular structure of physical empty space, then the following statement pays: The more "exotic" particle (resonance), the more unstable structural defect. Stability of elementary partices depends on temperature of physical space/vaccum/aether.
** The universe does not expand from itself but it grows (crystallizes) from outside, from the Future...
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It is impossible to understand that 'dualism of particle' means
if you don't know the geometrical form of particle,
becouse a triangle or cube doesn't move like circle or sphere
and a point= particle moves only in physicist's thoughts.

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socratus wrote:It is impossible to understand that 'dualism of particle' means
if you don't know the geometrical form of particle,
becouse a triangle or cube doesn't move like circle or sphere
and a point= particle moves only in physicist's thoughts.
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Particle is not any independent subject; it is a particular status of physical space...
You should consider particle in the context of physical space (structure) – as some structural defect/irregularity:
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You can recognize there as (electro) static momentum, and (dynamic) magnetic momentum as well.
But the situation is in the real unluckily worse: because of it is all arranged in 4-D :(
Similar defect (particle) is moving / growing during crystalisation toward the top/time (future) that causes spinning and wave trailing. You can see it in the real:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2b_5Lk1js
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Cerveny wrote: Particle is not any independent subject; it is a particular status of physical space...
You should consider particle in the context of physical space (structure) –
as some structural defect/irregularity:
It means that the form of particle is depended on reference frame.
And the particle's geometrical form in the vacuum is not the same
that in another physical spaces (structures).
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There is only one physical space. Forget TR. It is to realize we live on thin 3-D surface of 4-D Universe (just in the time “now”) that is our 3-D physical space (vacuum). The time of “now“– the phase border between fixed history and an odd, not caused yet future – is uncertain. But it feels the regular structure/pattern of history, an order, the causality. Thus the presence it is permanently glued / condensed / crystallized on history. It is glued and definitively fixed on/as history by every quantum interaction (“measurement”). We, live creatures, feel the possibility to change these things as the consciousness. The brain reaches quantum world and is able to influence it. Every our thought changes the trace of our brain in the sediments of time. (Unlucky Einstein’s space-time supposes that every our thought is forever given at advance in its obscure beginning)

Notice pls, we can see a certain analogy between quantum "measurement" and "naming" of some phenomena. When we are stating / naming of any phenomenon then we are putting a discrete value (quality), we are "digitising" and fixing a relevant part of History of idea as a new basis for discrete view / description of the reality in particular (our) context /represantaion...

As for history of the pure “empty” physical space, it is to consider something relative simple. Let us say some 4-D solid (crystal of) anti-hydrogen:) Common matter (particles) are the some kinds of defects of its regularity... As for shape of elementary particle, it is irrelevant at all – the essential is its influence to the surrounding…
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Socratus, you have probably noticed that I'm pretty cool in terms of physics. It needs only to use basic facts, logic, and put off the crazy stigma of theory of relativity. Because it is a festive time, let's forget for a moment the physics at all and pause at the phenomenon, which seems to me even more interesting. It's a subliminal communication between living beings. It's a subtle network, "internet", to which you can be connected, be "consecrated" through deep freedom of physical and mental stimuli. The reason, the mechanism and method of addressing the subjects, elements of this network (which resonates in the solitude of nature), excites me more than all the physical laws. Laymen feel this connection in the views of women, in endless devotion of his dogs, in the healing arms of nature or feeling foreign view at oneself. The advanced thinkers use this connection for cathartic bathing in the surface of the future / ideas :)

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