What is matter?
What is matter?
I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
Re: What is matter?
But those so-called 'arguments' are not sound and valid, and therefore are not worth repeating.bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
By the way 'matter' is just 'that', which is of 'physicality', yes or no?
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You have never understood my arguments and I am not going to repeat them for you.Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:10 pmBut those so-called 'arguments' are not sound and valid, and therefore are not worth repeating.bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
No.
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But I HAVE understood them. That is HOW I KNOW they are NOT sound and valid arguments, and thus are NOT worthy of even repeating them, for me NOR for ANY one else.bahman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:08 amYou have never understood my arguments and I am not going to repeat them for you.Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:10 pmBut those so-called 'arguments' are not sound and valid, and therefore are not worth repeating.bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
Okay.
So, what is 'matter' then, if it is NOT 'physical'?
Re: What is matter?
Which is it? Mind, or minds?bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
Re: What is matter?
Could you please tell everybody my argument for mind and its irreducibility?
What is physical to you? I already explained what is matter.
Re: What is matter?
There are minds.Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:03 pmWhich is it? Mind, or minds?bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
Re: What is matter?
It's a high-entropy, entangled energy eddy.
Re: What is matter?
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It's a high-entropy, entangled energy eddy.
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What!?
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It's a bunch of energy that came together and settled in such a way as to stay together for a while.
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It's a high-entropy, entangled energy eddy.
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What!?
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It's a bunch of energy that came together and settled in such a way as to stay together for a while.
Re: What is matter?
How many?bahman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:55 pmThere are minds.Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:03 pmWhich is it? Mind, or minds?bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
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You will NOT repeat your arguments for me but you EXPECT me to repeat your arguments for you, right?bahman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:55 pmCould you please tell everybody my argument for mind and its irreducibility?
Also, as I said, your argument is NOT sound and valid, and therefore NOT worth repeating.
WHEN you formulate a sound and valid argument, then get back to us. We ALL would be VERY INTERESTED in SEEING 'that'.
ONCE MORE, you make the CLAIM, I ask you to CLARIFY, you then DETRACT and/or DEFLECT.
If, to you, 'matter' is NOT 'physical', then what IS 'matter'?
I will suggest, AGAIN, if one comes here, especially in a philosophy forum, making CLAIMS, then it would be best if they had the ACTUAL PROOF for their CLAIM BEFORE they make the CLAIM, itself.
What is 'physical', to me, is 'that', which can be smelt, felt, tasted, seen, or heard with the visible parts of the human body.
you CLAIM that 'matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia'.
you have NOT actually EXPLAINED what 'matter', itself, IS, EXACTLY, other than, OF COURSE, that 'matter' is NOT 'physical'.
Maybe if you provide some examples of so-called 'non physical matter', then this might help your BELIEFS and CLAIMS here.
Re: What is matter?
viewtopic.php?p=620155#p620155bahman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:55 pmThere are minds.Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:03 pmWhich is it? Mind, or minds?bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:30 pm I believe in a new version of substance dualism that reality is made of two substances, minds (I have an argument for mind and I can share it with you if you are interested), and Qualia. Mind is an irreducible substance (I have an argument for irreducibility of mind and I can share it with you if you are interested) with the ability to experience and cause. Qualia is a reducible substance and it is the subject of experience and causation. Given these, matter cannot be anything but a collection of minds that interact via Qualia. Here we are left to explain what force and mass are: Mass is nothing but a sort of Qualia that resists change in motion. Force is nothing but a sort of Qualia that carries momentum and energy. Two objects, therefore, interact with each other through the exchange of Qualia.
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Why do they stay together to form matter?