There Are No Such Things As Objects
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There Are No Such Things As Objects
There are no such things as objects, there are but conditions within conditions and that which is commonly called an object is the relation between conditions; object is manifest due to the nature of the conditions involved. There are objects only to a subject condition as it is affected by another condition or conditions. Nothing can exist in this manner, but it is relative to another condition and this field of endlessness condition might be called the non-totality. This non-totality is never closed, never contained, and never a thing. It is an endless condition, a dreamy moving condition, only the illusion/object is the grasp of the ring. Object you might say is a biological condition's reaction to condition/s. What is considered the universe is but condition ever connected in its own endlessness.
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In the invisible mirror of Awareness, objects move in and out of existence, the mirror itself does not move at all. Like in a dream, a lot may be happening, yet nothing happens at all.
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A non-totality would be just that, the players come and go but the field of play is infinite and everlasting.
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I agree with you popeye.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:18 pmA non-totality would be just that, the players come and go but the field of play is infinite and everlasting.
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Depends on what the object is. If the object is a runaway truck condition, jump or duck.
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A hamburger is an object and even though someone does pay it does end hunger for awhile.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 pmI agree with you popeye.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:18 pmA non-totality would be just that, the players come and go but the field of play is infinite and everlasting.
Lots of things happen to the dream body. Lots of things happen to the waking body. As awareness you require the form of either body, but neither one exclusively.
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Non-totality is not contained and does not itself contain anything, there are but conditions within the condition of the great soup of non-totality open to infinity and everlasting.Walker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:57 pm Depends on what the object is. If the object is a runaway truck condition, jump or duck.
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Walker,Walker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:12 pmA hamburger is an object and even though someone does pay it does end hunger for awhile.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 pmI agree with you popeye.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:18 pm
A non-totality would be just that, the players come and go but the field of play is infinite and everlasting.
Lots of things happen to the dream body. Lots of things happen to the waking body. As awareness you require the form of either body, but neither one exclusively.
You're not grasping the concept.
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Everything you've written here is based on ... Lots of things happen to the dream body. Lots of things happen to the waking body. As awareness you require the form of either body, but neither one exclusively.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:19 pmWalker,
You're not grasping the concept.
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Non-totality contains no bodies no objects, even non-totality is not an object. One could I suppose consider it a coming to be, which is never to be manifested, never to be/object. Non-totality is an endless condition with no closure to have an object one must have closure for there to be object and there is no such thing as a closed system, closed condition, so, when does a condition become a thing, it never does, there are only relations between the conditions within the condition and the relations between conditions is the subject conditions apparent reality. If you think you understand the quantum world, you don't understand the quantum world, just an aside, reality is so complex we might never understand it but we chip away at it.Walker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:40 pmEverything you've written here is based on ... Lots of things happen to the dream body. Lots of things happen to the waking body. As awareness you require the form of either body, but neither one exclusively.
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popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:59 pmNon-totality contains no bodies no objects, even non-totality is not an object. One could I suppose consider it a coming to be, which is never to be manifested, never to be/object. Non-totality is an endless condition with no closure to have an object, one must have closure for there to be object and there is no such thing as a closed system. So, when does a condition become a thing, it never does; there are only relations between the conditions within the condition and the relations between conditions is the subject conditions apparent reality. Reality is so complex we might never understand it, but we chip away at it.
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This is the dumbest sleight of hand you could possibly pull on yourself.
Things and objects are synonymous terms.
You migh as well say "There are no such things as things"; or "There are no such objects as objects".
All you've done in your premise is discarded the term "object" and replaced it with the term "thing".
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Is a changing weather pattern an object/thing or changing condition? Non-totality is a condition containing no objects/things and is composed of changing conditions. Even terming weather as weather patterns may be a misnomer for at any given moment weather is an arrangement and arrangement must be repeated in order to become a pattern. All arrangement conditions are relative to other arrangement conditions and compose this non-totality condition, which never really manifests as a thing/object. Objects in this non-duality belong only to a subject condition in relation to other conditions. So, what is thought of traditionally as an object/thing is not in fact an object/thing it is but the biological reaction or reactions to the relative condition or conditions or the altered biological experience of a subject condition to relative other conditions, object/thing is biological experience, it is substantial only to the subject condition.Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:53 amThis is the dumbest sleight of hand you could possibly pull on yourself.
Things and objects are synonymous terms.
You might as well say "There are no such things as things"; or "There are no such objects as objects".
All you've done in your premise is discarded the term "object" and replaced it with the term "thing".
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You are wriggling about the connotation of the words. Nobody cares. This is just conceptual mind-fuckery.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:54 pmIs a changing weather pattern an object/thing or changing condition? Non-totality is a condition containing no objects/things and is composed of changing conditions. Even terming weather as weather patterns may be a misnomer for at any given moment weather is an arrangement and arrangement must be repeated in order to become a pattern. All arrangement conditions are relative to other arrangement conditions and compose this non-totality condition, which never really manifests as a thing/object. Objects in this non-duality belong only to a subject condition in relation to other conditions. So, what is thought of traditionally as an object/thing is not in fact an object/thing it is but the biological reaction or reactions to the relative condition or conditions or the altered biological experience of a subject condition to relative other conditions, object/thing is biological experience, it is substantial only to the subject condition.Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:53 amThis is the dumbest sleight of hand you could possibly pull on yourself.
Things and objects are synonymous terms.
You might as well say "There are no such things as things"; or "There are no such objects as objects".
All you've done in your premise is discarded the term "object" and replaced it with the term "thing".
You are still denoting that which you are denoting. And you are denoting a "changing weather pattern".