Is magic related to electro-magnetism?

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Is magic related to electro-magnetism?

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Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing and raising energy through ritual. A whole network of these ancient sites exists, criss-crossing the landscape with alignments, apparently for the purpose of sending the energies from one place to another. Today, dowsers can pick up these energy lines, which are often associated with underground streams. Dowsing is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice.

The feeling in these places of power, the tingling of the skin, is very much like an electrical feeling, and if our ancestors felt this too, then this is another reason for such places to be imbued with an aura of power. Today we are awash with electro-magnetic radiation produced artificially, but nevertheless such ancient sites still retain their power, especially at certain times, following the ancient cycles of day, month and year, as they always have done.
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Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing
I wonder if it has ever occurred to anybody to build a hospital on such a site.
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Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:37 am
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing
I wonder if it has ever occurred to anybody to build a hospital on such a site.
That's a very good idea. The ancients certainly did, or rather, such spiritual sanctuaries also acted as places of healing.
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Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing and raising energy through ritual.


So, was this so-called 'numinous, tangible feeling of power' because of the 'place' or because of the 'ritual'? Or both?

And what is it about those 'certain places' that makes them, supposedly, 'magical'?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am A whole network of these ancient sites exists, criss-crossing the landscape with alignments, apparently for the purpose of sending the energies from one place to another. Today, dowsers can pick up these energy lines, which are often associated with underground streams. Dowsing is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice.
Driving a motor vehicle or flying a plane is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice, but SO WHAT?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am The feeling in these places of power, the tingling of the skin, is very much like an electrical feeling, and if our ancestors felt this too, then this is another reason for such places to be imbued with an aura of power.
Is there ANY evidence or proof that our ancestors felt 'some tingling of the skin'?

If yes, then what, EXACTLY, is that evidence and/or proof?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Today we are awash with electro-magnetic radiation produced artificially, but nevertheless such ancient sites still retain their power, especially at certain times, following the ancient cycles of day, month and year, as they always have done.
Who are 'those' whose power is somehow supposedly retained in some so-called 'ancient sites'?

Magnetism holds the solution to ALL energy concerns, but this has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with 'magic'.
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Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:40 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:37 am
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing
I wonder if it has ever occurred to anybody to build a hospital on such a site.
That's a very good idea. The ancients certainly did, or rather, such spiritual sanctuaries also acted as places of healing.
And you know this how?

It could be said that a lot of burying was actually being held on some of those sites and not healing nor power at all.
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Age wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:29 am
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing and raising energy through ritual.


So, was this so-called 'numinous, tangible feeling of power' because of the 'place' or because of the 'ritual'? Or both?

And what is it about those 'certain places' that makes them, supposedly, 'magical'?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am A whole network of these ancient sites exists, criss-crossing the landscape with alignments, apparently for the purpose of sending the energies from one place to another. Today, dowsers can pick up these energy lines, which are often associated with underground streams. Dowsing is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice.
Driving a motor vehicle or flying a plane is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice, but SO WHAT?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am The feeling in these places of power, the tingling of the skin, is very much like an electrical feeling, and if our ancestors felt this too, then this is another reason for such places to be imbued with an aura of power.
Is there ANY evidence or proof that our ancestors felt 'some tingling of the skin'?

If yes, then what, EXACTLY, is that evidence and/or proof?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Today we are awash with electro-magnetic radiation produced artificially, but nevertheless such ancient sites still retain their power, especially at certain times, following the ancient cycles of day, month and year, as they always have done.
Who are 'those' whose power is somehow supposedly retained in some so-called 'ancient sites'?

Magnetism holds the solution to ALL energy concerns, but this has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with 'magic'.
+++So, was this so-called 'numinous, tangible feeling of power' because of the 'place' or because of the 'ritual'? Or both?+++

The places were probably already powerful because of a natural confluence of energies, but these were concentrated and directed by rituals.

+++And what is it about those 'certain places' that makes them, supposedly, 'magical'?+++

Electro-magnetic currents in the earth.

+++Driving a motor vehicle or flying a plane is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice, but SO WHAT?+++

The point I was making is that anyone can test this for themselves.

+++Is there ANY evidence or proof that our ancestors felt 'some tingling of the skin'?+++

Well, I do, and I've been told by other people that they do too. So my assumption is that it's a natural human capability, shared by at least some of our ancestors.

+++If yes, then what, EXACTLY, is that evidence and/or proof?+++

It's more of an obvious assumption, than something that can be proved. You might as well ask, where's the proof that our pre-literate ancestors could speak?

+++Who are 'those' whose power is somehow supposedly retained in some so-called 'ancient sites'?+++

The ancient sites' own power.

+++Magnetism holds the solution to ALL energy concerns, but this has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with 'magic'.+++

The point of my thread is to propose that magic does, indeed, have something to do with magnetism.
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Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am
Age wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:29 am
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing and raising energy through ritual.


So, was this so-called 'numinous, tangible feeling of power' because of the 'place' or because of the 'ritual'? Or both?

And what is it about those 'certain places' that makes them, supposedly, 'magical'?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am A whole network of these ancient sites exists, criss-crossing the landscape with alignments, apparently for the purpose of sending the energies from one place to another. Today, dowsers can pick up these energy lines, which are often associated with underground streams. Dowsing is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice.
Driving a motor vehicle or flying a plane is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice, but SO WHAT?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am The feeling in these places of power, the tingling of the skin, is very much like an electrical feeling, and if our ancestors felt this too, then this is another reason for such places to be imbued with an aura of power.
Is there ANY evidence or proof that our ancestors felt 'some tingling of the skin'?

If yes, then what, EXACTLY, is that evidence and/or proof?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Today we are awash with electro-magnetic radiation produced artificially, but nevertheless such ancient sites still retain their power, especially at certain times, following the ancient cycles of day, month and year, as they always have done.
Who are 'those' whose power is somehow supposedly retained in some so-called 'ancient sites'?

Magnetism holds the solution to ALL energy concerns, but this has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with 'magic'.
+++So, was this so-called 'numinous, tangible feeling of power' because of the 'place' or because of the 'ritual'? Or both?+++

The places were probably already powerful because of a natural confluence of energies, but these were concentrated and directed by rituals.
When you say 'probably', does this mean that you actually do not have a clue? Or, if it means something else, then what is that, exactly?

And what energies are you referring to exactly, which supposedly naturally confluence? Is there anyway energies could confluence unnaturally, by the way?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am +++And what is it about those 'certain places' that makes them, supposedly, 'magical'?+++

Electro-magnetic currents in the earth.
So, do you class all natural phenomena as 'magical', or just some of them?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am +++Driving a motor vehicle or flying a plane is a skill that anyone can pick up with just a small amount of practice, but SO WHAT?+++

The point I was making is that anyone can test this for themselves.
Test 'what', exactly?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am +++Is there ANY evidence or proof that our ancestors felt 'some tingling of the skin'?+++

Well, I do, and I've been told by other people that they do too. So my assumption is that it's a natural human capability, shared by at least some of our ancestors.
I have felt 'some tingling on the skin' while under the sun on a windy day, does this make the sun and/or the wind 'magical' as well?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am +++If yes, then what, EXACTLY, is that evidence and/or proof?+++

It's more of an obvious assumption, than something that can be proved. You might as well ask, where's the proof that our pre-literate ancestors could speak?
But why would anyone ask for that if NO one is making the claim they did?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am +++Who are 'those' whose power is somehow supposedly retained in some so-called 'ancient sites'?+++

The ancient sites' own power.
Which is 'what', exactly?
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:48 am +++Magnetism holds the solution to ALL energy concerns, but this has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with 'magic'.+++

The point of my thread is to propose that magic does, indeed, have something to do with magnetism.
So, just say 'where' or 'what' the 'magic' is, exactly?

Also, this thread title is somewhat deceiving if the actual is for you to propose that magic does, indeed, have something to do with magnetism.

By the way, the Universe just works because of magnetism, and there is nothing really that magical about this Fact.
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+++When you say 'probably', does this mean that you actually do not have a clue? Or, if it means something else, then what is that, exactly?+++

It means that this is the most likely scenario. There may be exceptions in some cases.

+++And what energies are you referring to exactly, which supposedly naturally confluence? Is there anyway energies could confluence unnaturally, by the way?+++

Electro-magnetic currents. If energies were brought together by human action, that would not be natural.

+++So, do you class all natural phenomena as 'magical', or just some of them?+++

In this context, specifically the ones that cause the numinous feeling, an altered state of consciousness

+++Test 'what', exactly?+++

The existence of these energies.

+++I have felt 'some tingling on the skin' while under the sun on a windy day, does this make the sun and/or the wind 'magical' as well?+++

Did they inspire any sort of spiritual feelings?

+++But why would anyone ask for that if NO one is making the claim they did?+++

Did what?

+++Which is 'what', exactly?+++

Magical energy.

+++So, just say 'where' or 'what' the 'magic' is, exactly?+++

In the stones of a stone circle, for example. Electro-magnetic current.
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Magic is related to illusion, and delusion.
Electro-magnetism is related to science.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:52 pm Magic is related to illusion, and delusion.
Electro-magnetism is related to science.
That was what I was trying to address in my post. Magic is a term that has been pretty badly debased over the years, but in its original meaning, it's a real phenomenon.
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Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:37 am
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing
I wonder if it has ever occurred to anybody to build a hospital on such a site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57G7KeA4y0U
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I would be very careful about using the word 'magic/magical' if I were you. If these places give off some kind of 'electrical energy' then that's what they give off. It's not 'magic'. Magic doesn't exist by definition.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:52 pm Magic is related to illusion, and delusion.
Electro-magnetism is related to science.
Iron is related to blood.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:26 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:37 am
Maia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am Certain places on the earth are magical, emanating a numinous, tangible feeling of power. Our ancestors knew this, and marked the most important of these sites with stone circles, temples, or similar monuments, which became places of healing
I wonder if it has ever occurred to anybody to build a hospital on such a site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57G7KeA4y0U
Very interesting (well narrated, too).
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