What unconnected cultures have references to unicorns?Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:33 pmI don't know. But literary devices can't spread to unconnected cultures.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:29 pmWhy don't you think they were literary devices? If they aren't then what else could they be?
Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
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That's probably a bad example, since although they existed in Sumerian myth, that's not totally unconnected to Greek myth. A much better example is the dragon. That occurs in both China and Europe.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:36 pmWhat unconnected cultures have references to unicorns?Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:33 pmI don't know. But literary devices can't spread to unconnected cultures.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:29 pm
Why don't you think they were literary devices? If they aren't then what else could they be?
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I would think China and Europe have connections going way back, generally through the Middle East as well as through Russia.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:41 pmThat's probably a bad example, since although they existed in Sumerian myth, that's not totally unconnected to Greek myth. A much better example is the dragon. That occurs in both China and Europe.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:36 pmWhat unconnected cultures have references to unicorns?
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Presumably, if you go back far enough, humanity as a whole probably had time to trade folklore from one end of the globe to the other. The Americas and Australia were supposedly inhabited by people who came from somewhere on the main continent of Europe/Asia/Africa.
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The first known connection came during the late Roman Empire.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:44 pmI would think China and Europe have connections going way back, generally through the Middle East as well as through Russia.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:41 pmThat's probably a bad example, since although they existed in Sumerian myth, that's not totally unconnected to Greek myth. A much better example is the dragon. That occurs in both China and Europe.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:36 pm
What unconnected cultures have references to unicorns?
There were also dragon like creatures in Meso-American folklore.
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You are about as 'spiritual' as a block of cheap cheese.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:50 pmThe first known connection came during the late Roman Empire.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:44 pmI would think China and Europe have connections going way back, generally through the Middle East as well as through Russia.
There were also dragon like creatures in Meso-American folklore.
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An interesting assertion.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:53 pmYou are about as 'spiritual' as a block of cheap cheese.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:50 pmThe first known connection came during the late Roman Empire.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:44 pm
I would think China and Europe have connections going way back, generally through the Middle East as well as through Russia.
There were also dragon like creatures in Meso-American folklore.
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It's possible that dragons may point to earlier folklore that circulated among early humans before they crossed the Bering Straight. Or maybe it's an archetype that is readily reproducible in any human no matter how far removed geographically. Otherwise, what would be your explanation of what a dragon is?
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Why would such an archetype exist?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:56 pmIt's possible that dragons may point to earlier folklore that circulated among early humans before they crossed the Bering Straight. Or maybe it's an archetype that is readily reproducible in any human no matter how far removed geographically. Otherwise, what would be your explanation of what a dragon is?
Dragons often symbolise the spiralling nature of earth energy.
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"Spiralling nature of earth energy?" Do dragons spiral? Chinese dragons perhaps but I believe European dragons usually looked more like lizards.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:58 pmWhy would such an archetype exist?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:56 pmIt's possible that dragons may point to earlier folklore that circulated among early humans before they crossed the Bering Straight. Or maybe it's an archetype that is readily reproducible in any human no matter how far removed geographically. Otherwise, what would be your explanation of what a dragon is?
Dragons often symbolise the spiralling nature of earth energy.
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Earlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm"Spiralling nature of earth energy? Do dragons spiral? Chinese dragons perhaps but I believe European dragons usually looked more like lizards.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:58 pmWhy would such an archetype exist?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:56 pm
It's possible that dragons may point to earlier folklore that circulated among early humans before they crossed the Bering Straight. Or maybe it's an archetype that is readily reproducible in any human no matter how far removed geographically. Otherwise, what would be your explanation of what a dragon is?
Dragons often symbolise the spiralling nature of earth energy.
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In any case, Maia, you're "open mindedness" with respect to magic and mythology is probably rather instructive on how religions are born out of literature or folklore--in essence--how a person who has otherwise not seen a unicorn can become convinced that there is "something to the myth." From there we can go in any direction imaginable because, literally, that's what you are using, your "open minded" imagination.
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Old English doesn't go that far back. It's very conceivable that someone who spoke old English could have come across folklore influence from China.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pmEarlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm"Spiralling nature of earth energy? Do dragons spiral? Chinese dragons perhaps but I believe European dragons usually looked more like lizards.
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The word goes back into proto-Indo-European, related to vermin, which comes from Latin.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:07 pmOld English doesn't go that far back. It's very conceivable that someone who spoke old English could have come across folklore influence from China.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pmEarlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm
"Spiralling nature of earth energy? Do dragons spiral? Chinese dragons perhaps but I believe European dragons usually looked more like lizards.
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Also, why do you say that "earth energy spirals"? What is Earth Energy? Where is an example of this energy that one can witness?Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pmEarlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm"Spiralling nature of earth energy? Do dragons spiral? Chinese dragons perhaps but I believe European dragons usually looked more like lizards.