Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:56 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:08 am
It's not a mystery when you know you exist, as in you are aware you are aware. That's not a mystery.
But then what about the choosing of this sense of self...this sense of being alive self never chose to exist did it ? that's the mystery I am talking about.
But there is, AGAIN, NO mystery here.
OF COURSE the 'you', or the 'self', NEVER chose to exist. ALL of 'you', 'selves', came to exist because of previous actions, or behaviors, which 'you' had absolutely NO SAY NOR choice AT ALL over.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:08 am
But then you can think back to idea that there is indeed a chooser that chooses to be born...that's the mystery I'm talking about...how is that possible that one can choose to be born?
Has ANY one here, in this forum, EVER even suggested ANY such thing?
If yes, then WHO, and in relation to WHAT, EXACTLY?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:08 am
surely it's a mystery how one happens to know it is born?
WHY do 'you' PERSIST with this kind of thinking.
OBVIOUSLY, NO one is consciously AWARE that it is being born, when they are born. But this is just BECAUSE they have NEVER learned ANY conception of what being 'born' IS, NOR what 'birth' IS.
This learning comes later in a human being's life.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:08 am
because did they choose to be born, and did they know they were choosing to be born ?....how is that possible, surely it's the mystery I am talking about?
It is NOT a 'mystery' BECAUSE it does NOT even happen, NOR even occur.
The concept ''mystery'' is known only through the word itself.
And, through a human being.
Do you think, ASSUME, or BELIEVE that the concept 'illusion' is known only through the word itself, also?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
Words know nothing,
Well this is PLAINLY OBVIOUS, and so which did NOT NEED SAYING.
Do you KNOW a human being who thinks, ASSUMES, or BELIEVES that 'words', themselves, KNOW 'things'?
If yes, then WHO is that or WHO are they?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
the conception of a word, is created out of the word itself,
And, through, or out of, a human being.
Or, do you REALLY think or BELIEVE that concepts of words are created out of words ALONE?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
which creates the illusion of a knower of the word, which is also an illusion along with the word..
If you say so, but you seem to be just CONTRADICTING "your" OWN 'self' here. But anyway, IF the 'conception' of a word COULD BE and IS, supposedly, created out of the word itself, then how EXACTLY does this then lead you thinking or BELIEVING that this then creates the illusion of a 'knower'?
I would suggest that IF the conception of a word is created out of or from a human being, then this would create the 'conception' that 'a human being' was 'a knower', and NOT the other way AROUND as you are SAYING and CLAIMING here.
IF, as you SAY and CLAIM, 'the conception' of 'a word' is created out of or from 'the word', itself, then this would NEVER create the illusion of 'a knower' BECAUSE as ANY one KNOWS, 'words KNOW nothing'. Or, in MORE CORRECT TERMS, 'words, themselves, do NOT KNOW ANY thing'. Therefore, there is NO illusion of 'a knower' being CREATED here. But what ACTUALLY DOES EXIST are 'you', human beings, of which SOME of 'you' ACTUALLY DO KNOW SOME 'things'. Which MEANS that 'a knower' DOES REALLY EXIST. Who and what that is IS 'the knower' of SOME 'things'. Which, OBVIOUSLY, could ONLY be 'you', the human being.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
Reality is silent...
If you SAY SO. But does then then MEAN that when you SAY some thing, out loud, then that is NOT 'reality'?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
words are an imposition upon this silence...
But the words upon this screen are completely AND utterly DEAD SILENT. But, OBVIOUSLY, the 'spoken' word, which is HEARD, IS NOT.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
in other words, words are an illusory reality superimposed upon the eternal mystery...appearing as no mystery. .
But there is NO so-called 'mystery', to Me.
Just because 'you' do NOT YET KNOW some 'things' "dontaskme", this then does NOT mean that there is some "eternal mystery" to ANY one ELSE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
Bye the way Age...if you think my posts make no sense...
Have I EVER SAID or THOUGHT this?
If yes, then WHERE, EXACTLY?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
then just take a look in the mirror at your own posts, because they to me, make absolutely no sense either,
WHY do you PRESUME or are making the ASSUMPTION that your posts "dontaskme" make absolutely NO sense AT ALL, to me?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
in fact your nonsense makes my nonsense look half sensible in comparison.
If you say so.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
No one is learning CONCEPTION......
SOME of 'you' LEARN how to make babies, or make plans. So, WHY do you think or BELIEVE that absolutely NO one is so-called 'learning CONCEPTION'?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:36 am
because in your own words...you have stated here >
It is NOT a 'mystery' BECAUSE it does NOT even happen, NOR even occur.
Keep up the insanity of pretending to know what the heck you are talking about.
But ONLY I KNOW what the 'it' word WAS and IS referring to here. So, literally, ONLY 'I' KNOW what 'I' am 'talking about' here.
'you', OBVIOUSLY, do NOT. As can be PROVED IRREFUTABLY True by just asking 'you' the CLARIFYING QUESTION;
What DID and DOES the 'it' word refer to in that sentence "dontaskme"?