bahman wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 3:16 pm
We know that we don't have direct access to the color of an object. There is light reflected from the object, then our sensory system comes to play, and then qualia are formed in the brain.
If it's a simulation or simulating we don't know if that model is correct. Further how do we know that objects don't really have colors. Through observations of reality. We seem to have some connection to reality.
We know certain things about reality such as the existence of the sensory system.
Which we got by studying bodies (or animals and other humans). IOW via observing reality. Or if its not reality, then we don't know.
Actually, there is a shortcut, we experience changes, and anything that changes is contingent (qualia), therefore there is a mind that experiences and creates qualia. The reality is then made of minds and qualia that mind is primary and qualia are due to mind. So we are dealing with idealism where nothing independent of mind exists. Qualia that we experience is either generated by us, such as thought or generated by others. Therefore we are living in simulating reality.
I still don't know how other minds generate qualia for us. Then they are directly contacting us, and we their qualia. If all there is beyond us to experience is qualia, then that's reality and we are in contact with it.
Others also experience changes.
If you are not in direct contact with reality and we are not you, then how can you be sure, especially if you are in a simulation, what our relationship with reality is. Your conclusions are based on your simulation (and your memory).