Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 5:50 pm
By virtue of the vocabulary existing outside of your awareness your view is outdated.
That's true of everyone, if we are including information in tiny corners of the web.
You could have said...
here's some interesting terms that I like/think clarify things/you might find useful. And then explained how it related.
Instead you talk about me and be shocked (wow) that I did not know everything in every corner of the internet like you presumably do.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 5:41 pm
So how do these 'things' relate to my or our position(s)?
You are surprised by the "idiosyncratic" use of words. Surprise is a measure of new information.
I didn't say I was surprised by that philosopher's use of those terms or yours. I did talk about bahman's referring to a quale that is precisely not experienced and bounced off the retina. You are making stuff up.
Your surprise indicates that you learned something new - most people would say that learning new things is a good thing, yet you have defaulted to critique, not praise having discovered a novel use of words.
I thanked you for introducing me to the philosopher and said he seemed interesting. I also looked for more information about those terms, but googling the philosoher's name, finding his website and then searching in his website for those terms. Which I told you.
Then I asked you to relate to terms to what bahman and I were discussing, since you responded to a post of mine in that discussion.
You have yet to do that. That was curiosity about the terms. That was me hoping you would use those terms in a discussion related to the thread. That was a question you could have answered but keep not answering.
I exhibited a lot of curiosity and relayed that to you. You aren't even good at being an ass. Let me give you a hint. Read the things and people you want to mock. I know it takes work away from simply labelling and cut and pasting.
Confusion being the default outcome of human communication - skillfull conmmnicators posess the ability to navigate the mess irrespective of the idoosyncratic use of words. It's basic
code-swithing.
Peddling normative use of language is just conservativism dressed up as philosophy. Language evolves in real time - quit pulling up the handbrake!
I told bahman that his use was idiosyncratic because that might be useful to him. I can communicate fine with people who use terms differently including bahman.
I think it is important to point out these things and then we can move forward OR and here's the big OR there bahman might say he meant something different. Which he did.
You could join a discussion with new information and then integrate that in the discussion, like an adult. Or you can play little dominance games.
You're being a dick, but you did warn us, and now I'll just ignore you. If you are interested in those terms and actually understand their use, perhaps you will introduce them in sentences somewhere. Who knows?