The distance between two points is never zero. You accepted it so you have to accept the consequence, namely, there is nothing between two points. Like it or not.Age wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:45 pmHave you ever watched an apple seed grow into an apple tree, produce apples, which ripen, and then decay? There are NO frames that come discretely. It all happens in ONE continuous motion.bahman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:01 pmHave you ever watched a movie? The frames come discretely but the movie seems continuous!Age wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:09 am
LOL
Your INABILITY to explain what I have asked for beer is PROVING True that your OWN CLAIM is False and Wrong.
Just because there is a perceived distance of more than zero, then this does NOT mean there is nothing. In fact this INFERS there IS ACTUALLY some thing.
And, just because you BELIEVE, UNDOUBTEDLY, that there is nothing, this ALSO does NOT mean there is nothing.
Also, the Fact that there is some thing PROVES, IRREFUTABLY, that your claim is False and Wrong.
Also, the frames that come so-called discretely in a movie are ACTUALLY joined together as ONE, continuous.
Change and contingency
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There may be MILLIONS of 'things' between the two points. And, this is a Fact that can NOT be refuted.bahman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:04 amThe distance between two points is never zero. You accepted it so you have to accept the consequence, namely, there is nothing between two points. Like it or not.Age wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:45 pmHave you ever watched an apple seed grow into an apple tree, produce apples, which ripen, and then decay? There are NO frames that come discretely. It all happens in ONE continuous motion.
Also, the frames that come so-called discretely in a movie are ACTUALLY joined together as ONE, continuous.
Will you provide an example of two points with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between them?
if no, then WHY NOT?
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Now, you are talking about regress which is not acceptable.Age wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:34 pmThere may be MILLIONS of 'things' between the two points. And, this is a Fact that can NOT be refuted.bahman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:04 amThe distance between two points is never zero. You accepted it so you have to accept the consequence, namely, there is nothing between two points. Like it or not.Age wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:45 pm
Have you ever watched an apple seed grow into an apple tree, produce apples, which ripen, and then decay? There are NO frames that come discretely. It all happens in ONE continuous motion.
Also, the frames that come so-called discretely in a movie are ACTUALLY joined together as ONE, continuous.
Will you provide an example of two points with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between them?
if no, then WHY NOT?
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LOL now you are ASSUMING some thing that is completely and utterly Wrong, AGAIN.bahman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:28 pmNow, you are talking about regress which is not acceptable.
Also, you are only 'trying to' DEFLECT from what I POINTED OUT and SHOWED, which PROVED your CLAIMS here Wrong and Incorrect.
If you can NOT provide just one example of two points with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between them, then you are PROVING your OWN CLAIMS here False, as well.
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That is regress when you say that there are always points between two points. That is in contradiction with what you have accepted, the distance between two points is never zero.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:53 amLOL now you are ASSUMING some thing that is completely and utterly Wrong, AGAIN.
Also, you are only 'trying to' DEFLECT from what I POINTED OUT and SHOWED, which PROVED your CLAIMS here Wrong and Incorrect.
If you can NOT provide just one example of two points with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between them, then you are PROVING your OWN CLAIMS here False, as well.
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Well I NEVER said 'that', so 'that' has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing' here.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:22 pmThat is regress when you say that there are always points between two points.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:53 amLOL now you are ASSUMING some thing that is completely and utterly Wrong, AGAIN.
Also, you are only 'trying to' DEFLECT from what I POINTED OUT and SHOWED, which PROVED your CLAIMS here Wrong and Incorrect.
If you can NOT provide just one example of two points with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between them, then you are PROVING your OWN CLAIMS here False, as well.
AGAIN, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to do with what I have ACTUALLY SAID, and STATED.
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you have two options: There are always points in any interval and not. Which one do you pick? The first one leads to a regress. The second one is discrete.Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:44 amWell I NEVER said 'that', so 'that' has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing' here.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:22 pmThat is regress when you say that there are always points between two points.Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:53 am
LOL now you are ASSUMING some thing that is completely and utterly Wrong, AGAIN.
Also, you are only 'trying to' DEFLECT from what I POINTED OUT and SHOWED, which PROVED your CLAIMS here Wrong and Incorrect.
If you can NOT provide just one example of two points with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between them, then you are PROVING your OWN CLAIMS here False, as well.
AGAIN, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to do with what I have ACTUALLY SAID, and STATED.
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The first does NOT necessarily lead to 'regress'. And, the second one does NOT necessarily lead to 'discrete' EITHER.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:46 amyou have two options: There are always points in any interval and not. Which one do you pick? The first one leads to a regress. The second one is discrete.
By the way, are you STILL NOT YET ABLE to provide ANY example for your CLAIM here?
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Then you don't understand.Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:21 amThe first does NOT necessarily lead to 'regress'. And, the second one does NOT necessarily lead to 'discrete' EITHER.
Any change.
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I, supposedly, do NOT understand 'what', EXACTLY?
So, you STILL can NOT provide absolutely ANY example of where EXACTLY during the changing of, let us say for an example, an apple seed to an apple there is absolutely NOTHING at all existing.
LOOK, as I have ALREADY POINTED OUT and STATED, you are HOLDING a BELIEF, and for the only way this BELIEF could possibly be true you have to make up some OTHER False, Wrong, and Incorrect CLAIM, which is exactly what you are doing here. End of story.
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What I said.
Any change.Age wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:25 amSo, you STILL can NOT provide absolutely ANY example of where EXACTLY during the changing of, let us say for an example, an apple seed to an apple there is absolutely NOTHING at all existing.
LOOK, as I have ALREADY POINTED OUT and STATED, you are HOLDING a BELIEF, and for the only way this BELIEF could possibly be true you have to make up some OTHER False, Wrong, and Incorrect CLAIM, which is exactly what you are doing here. End of story.
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So even you do NOT know.
Or, if you do, are you NOT capable of just writing 'it' down so that we can SEE 'it'?
So, to "bahman", when an apple seed changes into an apple, there is absolutely NOTHING in the WHOLE of the Universe.bahman wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 2:39 pmAny change.Age wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:25 amSo, you STILL can NOT provide absolutely ANY example of where EXACTLY during the changing of, let us say for an example, an apple seed to an apple there is absolutely NOTHING at all existing.
LOOK, as I have ALREADY POINTED OUT and STATED, you are HOLDING a BELIEF, and for the only way this BELIEF could possibly be true you have to make up some OTHER False, Wrong, and Incorrect CLAIM, which is exactly what you are doing here. End of story.
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You have two options: There are always points in any interval and not. Which one do you pick? The first one leads to a regress. The second one is discrete.Age wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 3:47 pmSo even you do NOT know.
Or, if you do, are you NOT capable of just writing 'it' down so that we can SEE 'it'?
So, to "bahman", when an apple seed changes into an apple, there is absolutely NOTHING in the WHOLE of the Universe.bahman wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 2:39 pmAny change.Age wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:25 am
So, you STILL can NOT provide absolutely ANY example of where EXACTLY during the changing of, let us say for an example, an apple seed to an apple there is absolutely NOTHING at all existing.
LOOK, as I have ALREADY POINTED OUT and STATED, you are HOLDING a BELIEF, and for the only way this BELIEF could possibly be true you have to make up some OTHER False, Wrong, and Incorrect CLAIM, which is exactly what you are doing here. End of story.
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Why do you use the 'and' word?bahman wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 5:49 pmYou have two options: There are always points in any interval and not. Which one do you pick? The first one leads to a regress. The second one is discrete.
What you say here has nothing to do with your claim that during change there is absolutely nothing at all.
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Sorry, I should have said or.Age wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:58 amWhy do you use the 'and' word?
What you say here has nothing to do with your claim that during change there is absolutely nothing at all.