The past can be so recent that it appears to be the unfolding present.Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:59 amDeterminism means everything that happened in the past had to happen and could not have been otherwise than it was. Determinism does not mean that what happened in the past must happen in the future especially to men who are relatively free men. Relatively free men have many choices, slaves have few choices, whereas inanimate things have no choices at all.henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:18 amSo, I can count you as my plus one for the next meeting of the Libertarian Free Willies (AKA: the Screw Determinism Club)?
The following quote explains why many choices indicates confusion.
“Choice, it seems to me, is an act of confusion. When I'm bewildered, uncertain, confused, then I choose; and I say to myself, "I choose out of my freedom; I am free to choose". But is not choice the outcome of uncertainty? Out of my confusion, bewilderment, uncertainty, the feeling of being incapable of clarity - out of this I act. I choose a leader; I choose a certain course of action; and I commit myself to a particular activity, but that activity, that pattern of action, the pursuit of a particular mode of thought is the result of my confusion. If I'm not confused, if there is no confusion whatsoever, then there is no choice; I see things as they are. I act not on choice.”
NEW YORK 3RD PUBLIC TALK 30TH SEPTEMBER 1966
https://jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1966/ ... ublic-talk