BigMike wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:24 am
iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:27 am
On the other hand, you see only what you must see, right? And if I'm stuck, que sera, sera?
Correct. And I have no problem with that. None, whatsoever. You are the one who appears astounded by the fact that the world is material, not I.
See, there you go again. Claiming that I'm the one who appears astonished as though I ever had the option to appear any way other than how my brain compelled me to appear.
iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:27 am
Still, it's like you are looking for a loophole in the laws of matter.
BigMike wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:24 amNo, I'm not.
Okay, but the laws of matter compel me to think that you are.
iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:27 am
And, if there is one, the human brain is certainly the first place that one would go to look for it, isn't it?
BigMike wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:24 amListen: there is none. Basta.
And of course you have traced this all the way back to a complete and definitive understanding of existence itself. Enough indeed perhaps if you can provide us with the details.
Only, as with those like bahman, your search seems more "metaphysical" than experiential.
BigMike wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:24 amReally? I'm not searching for anything.
In that case then, your explanation. You assert things to be true by asserting things to be true. bahman is particularly prone to do this. He calls it metaphysics. But like all the rest of us in a wholly determined universe, he too is off the hook.
Let's ask the scientists.
BigMike wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:24 amThey have already spoken. When will you accept their answer?
When my brain compels me to? And I suspect that the scientific community has not reached a definitive consensus on the free will/determinism conundrum...antinomy? Why? Because if they had, that would be the sort of story that would explode across the media. Everyone would be talking about it.
On the other hand, even if one day we turn on the news and that is at the top of the newscast, how exactly would we go about demonstrating that this too is not just another inherent manifestation of the only possible reality?
Ask you to confirm it?