Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:06 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:29 pm
I am just pointing out a silliness that doesn't seem to get noticed.
Oh, it's been noticed, and commented on, multiple times, in-forum, across multiple threads, by the two or three free willists who post here
Ah, yes. I meant by those who are asserting they are completely determined.
Yeah, I know. That's who I'm talkin' about too. At no point does any hard determinist say
I'm determined, my view point is determined, the very words I'm sayin' or typin' are totally determined, I'm a robot. You'd think, over the years, I'd have run across at least one hard determinist who'd say sumthin' like that (cuz --if determinism were truly applicable to man -- there'd have to be at least a few
determined to
act like determinists).
Instead, I always get folks who argue for hard determinism but never act as determinists. Now, yeah, if determinism is truly applicable to man, it can be said they're
determined to act as sumthin' other than a determinist. But why should this be? It just makes sense that at least some, a few at any rate, would be determined to, as I say, say something like
I'm determined, my view point is determined, the very words I'm sayin' or typin' are totally determined, I'm a robot.
But I've never run across one, in RL or on-line.
I find that suspicious. It's as though I were playin' consecutive games of pool, usin' different sticks, balls, tables, and shots for each game, while gettin' the same exact results each game.