Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:07 pm
DPMartin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:14 pm
how does man come to know what God already knows?
Many ways.
God knows at water turns to ice at 0c or 32F. I also know that. But the Bible didn't have to tell me that. Science did.
God knows that 2+2 = 4. But God didn't tell me that directly; deduction showed me that, and before that, my maths teachers taught me that.
But God knows that Jesus Christ came to save me. He knows that, and now I know that. I did indeed learn that by revelation from God...written revelation.
God knows He loves me. He told me so by revelation, of course; but I've also learned the truth of it through life, through my experience with Him.
In all these ways, I know what God knows. So can anyone.
you don't need a special revelation from on High to experience fire is hot and can burn and ice is cold, therefore come to know what God already knows.
Now you see it.
Special revelation is but one way of knowing what God knows. But there are various others, as above. There is the general revelation of Creation. There is science. There is morality. There is mathematics. There is logic. There is experience. There is history. And so on. There are many ways: but different ways suit different kinds of information.
the question was rhetorical, this isn't kindergarten is it? and what's with the yackety bla about math and science?
its off subject
FYI: Jesus is a revelation of God in the flesh as in "Word of God made flesh" and is of God therefore a revelation of God, which a born again (John chapter 3) comes to know, hence experience.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Joh 14:20 At that day
ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
there's no doubt the scriptures help, but it isn't the scriptures that raises one from the dead. its the power in the presence of God that is experienced as Jesus says "but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."