You haven't shown anything.
IF the whole ios bounded then you could have alive things by chance. The chance becomes one if the whole is boundless.
You haven't shown anything.
IF the whole ios bounded then you could have alive things by chance. The chance becomes one if the whole is boundless.
But I have NOT YET 'argued' for, NOR against, ANY 'thing'. So, I could NOT have possibly 'argued', "the same way you do. I had NO intention to 'argue' and in fact I do NOT 'need' to 'argue' ANY thing here.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:37 amYou.
Don't you see? You are arguing the same way I argue.Age wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:14 amLOL 'bounded' by 'what', EXACTLY?
AND, how far out does that 'boundary' expand? Or, what is on the other side of that boundary, and then how far out does 'that' expand for?
Also, do NOT forget that ALL of these, laughably called "boundaries", are still just a part of the WHOLE Everything.
SEE, no matter which way you want to LOOK AT this you will ALWAYS arrive at ALL-THERE-IS being INFINITE, as well as ETERNAL by the way.
But I have ALREADY SHOWN 'things'. But BECAUSE 'you' ARE COMPLETELY and UTTERLY BLINDED here 'you' can NOT SEE them.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:42 amYou haven't shown anything.
Is the english language your "first language", as it is known as?
You argued. It is just right there (bold part).Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:36 amBut I have NOT YET 'argued' for, NOR against, ANY 'thing'. So, I could NOT have possibly 'argued', "the same way you do. I had NO intention to 'argue' and in fact I do NOT 'need' to 'argue' ANY thing here.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:37 amYou.
Don't you see? You are arguing the same way I argue.Age wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:14 am
LOL 'bounded' by 'what', EXACTLY?
AND, how far out does that 'boundary' expand? Or, what is on the other side of that boundary, and then how far out does 'that' expand for?
Also, do NOT forget that ALL of these, laughably called "boundaries", are still just a part of the WHOLE Everything.
SEE, no matter which way you want to LOOK AT this you will ALWAYS arrive at ALL-THERE-IS being INFINITE, as well as ETERNAL by the way.
So what is your argument again?
But I have NO argument. You are the one who is 'trying to' argue for some 'thing'.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:57 amYou argued. It is just right there (bold part).
So what is your argument again?
If you don't have any argument then what you know to be is the actual truth of things are then what you have got is just your belief.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:43 pmBut I have NO argument. You are the one who is 'trying to' argue for some 'thing'.
I am just sending a message here, through this forum, as well as just questioning and challenging those who make CLAIMS and have BELIEFS.
I ALREADY KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' IS and have NO need to argue for ANY thing here in this forum.
Thee Truth does NOT 'need' to be argued for. Thee ACTUAL Truth speaks for Itself. Thee ACTUAL Truth can be just VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY PROVEN to be True.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:03 pmIf you don't have any argument then what you know to be is the actual truth of things are then what you have got is just your belief.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:43 pmBut I have NO argument. You are the one who is 'trying to' argue for some 'thing'.
I am just sending a message here, through this forum, as well as just questioning and challenging those who make CLAIMS and have BELIEFS.
I ALREADY KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' IS and have NO need to argue for ANY thing here in this forum.
No, you need an argument. And English is not my first language.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:46 pmThee Truth does NOT 'need' to be argued for. Thee ACTUAL Truth speaks for Itself. Thee ACTUAL Truth can be just VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY PROVEN to be True.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:03 pmIf you don't have any argument then what you know to be is the actual truth of things are then what you have got is just your belief.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:43 pm
But I have NO argument. You are the one who is 'trying to' argue for some 'thing'.
I am just sending a message here, through this forum, as well as just questioning and challenging those who make CLAIMS and have BELIEFS.
I ALREADY KNOW what thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' IS and have NO need to argue for ANY thing here in this forum.
Also, I do NOT have ANY 'beliefs'.
Furthermore, and once again, is the english language your "first language", as some say?
Why do I 'need' an argument?bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:49 pmNo, you need an argument. And English is not my first language.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:46 pmThee Truth does NOT 'need' to be argued for. Thee ACTUAL Truth speaks for Itself. Thee ACTUAL Truth can be just VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY PROVEN to be True.
Also, I do NOT have ANY 'beliefs'.
Furthermore, and once again, is the english language your "first language", as some say?
Otherwise, nobody believes you.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:41 pmWhy do I 'need' an argument?bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:49 pmNo, you need an argument. And English is not my first language.Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:46 pm
Thee Truth does NOT 'need' to be argued for. Thee ACTUAL Truth speaks for Itself. Thee ACTUAL Truth can be just VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY PROVEN to be True.
Also, I do NOT have ANY 'beliefs'.
Furthermore, and once again, is the english language your "first language", as some say?
To you nothing. But you are responsible as an intelligent agent to think of an argument for what you think is true.
But I do NOT want ANY one to 'believe' me. I am NOT here, in this forum, to be 'believed'.
THEREFORE, contrary to your BELIEF, I ACTUALLY do NOT 'need' an argument.
But I ALREADY have the 'arguments' NEEDED to back up and support what I think is true.
Ahan. So what is your argument for the whole being boundless?Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:24 amBut I do NOT want ANY one to 'believe' me. I am NOT here, in this forum, to be 'believed'.
In fact, I am SHOWING WHY 'believing' things is WHY 'you', human beings, in the days of when this is being written, are SO SLOW in discovering and learning more and anew.
'Believing' things is WHY 'you', human beings, do NOT listen to each other FULLY, and WHY 'you' just keep continually saying and expressing the EXACT SAME things over and over again. EXACTLY like 'you', "bahman", do here.
THEREFORE, contrary to your BELIEF, I ACTUALLY do NOT 'need' an argument.
But I ALREADY have the 'arguments' NEEDED to back up and support what I think is true.
I am just seeking out those who are Truly OPEN, interested, and CURIOUS. In the meantime I am just learning how to OPEN those of 'you' who are CLOSED.
No matter what 'edge', 'boundary', nor 'enclosure' 'you', human beings, 'try to' surround the WHOLE that 'edge', 'boundary', or 'enclosure' would HAVE TO BE infinite outwards or HAVE TO HAVE another side to it, which would HAVE TO BE infinite or if 'bounded' would AGAIN HAVE TO BE infinite outwards, or, HAVE TO HAVE another side to it. Ad infinitude.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:02 amAhan. So what is your argument for the whole being boundless?Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:24 amBut I do NOT want ANY one to 'believe' me. I am NOT here, in this forum, to be 'believed'.
In fact, I am SHOWING WHY 'believing' things is WHY 'you', human beings, in the days of when this is being written, are SO SLOW in discovering and learning more and anew.
'Believing' things is WHY 'you', human beings, do NOT listen to each other FULLY, and WHY 'you' just keep continually saying and expressing the EXACT SAME things over and over again. EXACTLY like 'you', "bahman", do here.
THEREFORE, contrary to your BELIEF, I ACTUALLY do NOT 'need' an argument.
But I ALREADY have the 'arguments' NEEDED to back up and support what I think is true.
I am just seeking out those who are Truly OPEN, interested, and CURIOUS. In the meantime I am just learning how to OPEN those of 'you' who are CLOSED.
But my argument is exactly what you have written here. You agree with yours and disagree with mine.Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:27 pmNo matter what 'edge', 'boundary', nor 'enclosure' 'you', human beings, 'try to' surround the WHOLE that 'edge', 'boundary', or 'enclosure' would HAVE TO BE infinite outwards or HAVE TO HAVE another side to it, which would HAVE TO BE infinite or if 'bounded' would AGAIN HAVE TO BE infinite outwards, or, HAVE TO HAVE another side to it. Ad infinitude.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:02 amAhan. So what is your argument for the whole being boundless?Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:24 am
But I do NOT want ANY one to 'believe' me. I am NOT here, in this forum, to be 'believed'.
In fact, I am SHOWING WHY 'believing' things is WHY 'you', human beings, in the days of when this is being written, are SO SLOW in discovering and learning more and anew.
'Believing' things is WHY 'you', human beings, do NOT listen to each other FULLY, and WHY 'you' just keep continually saying and expressing the EXACT SAME things over and over again. EXACTLY like 'you', "bahman", do here.
THEREFORE, contrary to your BELIEF, I ACTUALLY do NOT 'need' an argument.
But I ALREADY have the 'arguments' NEEDED to back up and support what I think is true.
I am just seeking out those who are Truly OPEN, interested, and CURIOUS. In the meantime I am just learning how to OPEN those of 'you' who are CLOSED.
But your argument is NOT the EXACT SAME as what I have written here. This can be CLEARLY SEEN and so PROVEN true.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:08 pmBut my argument is exactly what you have written here.Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:27 pmNo matter what 'edge', 'boundary', nor 'enclosure' 'you', human beings, 'try to' surround the WHOLE that 'edge', 'boundary', or 'enclosure' would HAVE TO BE infinite outwards or HAVE TO HAVE another side to it, which would HAVE TO BE infinite or if 'bounded' would AGAIN HAVE TO BE infinite outwards, or, HAVE TO HAVE another side to it. Ad infinitude.
I did NOT disagree with your conclusion that the Universe is infinite. The way you go about 'trying to' argue this is what I have been questioning and/or challenging.