First define "timeless".raw_thought wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:52 pm I am asking why did Kant and others think it is timeless?
As I see it, time is nothing but a measurement of change - we count little movements/vibrations - then we say that approx. 9 billion oscillations of the Caesium133 atom equal 1 second and then we extrapolate from there...
As such, time is not fundamental - if anything is fundamental to the reality as we perceive it, then it is change/movement.
As such, your questions should be: Why is Kant's Noumenon changeless, why doesn't it move?
My answer to that would be:
All movement is only relative. As soon as relativity is left behind all movement ceases (because you just lost your reference point).
Kant's Noumenon is not a thing, it is as such not contained in the world of the relative. It is without borders/limits (=infinite) and as such encompasses "all". The result is: Noumenon cannot move (where would it go? it cannot move anywhere where it not already is).