attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:23 am
commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:47 pm
seeds wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:45 pm
As much as you will no doubt insist that I am mistaken, I'm afraid that when it comes to the crux of my argument, I simply don't see a whole lot of difference between the following two assertions,...
- 1. "I believe there is no God" (hardcore [anti-theist] atheism).
2. "I do not believe there is a God" (your brand of soft atheism).
...for they both imply that the proponents of either option operate under the shared assumption that nothing
intelligent was involved in the creation of the universe.
Now, unless you are going to suggest that the reality we are experiencing could be an elaborate
"simulation" taking place on a computer somewhere, or some other such nonsense similar to that,...
...then, again, your brand of so-called "soft" atheism does not avoid the implication that the amazing order of our world was somehow founded upon blind and mindless (serendipitous) processes.
Thus, at least in that regard, you are no different from the "hardcore" (anti-theist) atheist.
(Continued in next post)
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Please note: #1 above says that I have a belief. #2 says I don’t have a belief. Not the same.
Personally, I think they are just stating the same thing,...
Precisely,... at least when it comes to the fact that they both default to the incredulous
"chance hypothesis."
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:23 am
Anyway, seeds, I think you are going a bit overboard mate. I think from reading previous posts, that you believe we are not in out perfect form (as humans) and that we will evolve into something else?
Not just
"...something else..." atto, but literally a
"new universe" similar to the one we are presently held within.
Now I don't expect you to accept my theory, but geez, man, how many times do I have to upload this particular image...
...before its metaphorical implication becomes clear?...
...(The implication, of course, being that we humans are the "Ultimate Seeds" [the ultimate embryos] of the "Ultimate Lifeform" [the universe creating Entity that we call "God"].)
Now it is needless to say that my theory could be complete nonsense.
However, the bottom line is that
if it is at least a
"possibility" that we have been given the gift of eternal life, then we simply must have something logical to do to occupy infinite time, otherwise, eternal existence could probably get pretty tedious and boring.
And thus, the creation (and maintenance) of a universe,...
(created out of the living mental fabric of one's own mind)
...seems to be the only thing that could provide us with an eternally fulfilling, and eternally
"fruitful" purpose.
And I say
"eternally fruitful" purpose because logic dictates that we would eventually evolve to the point of being able to create
this level of order...
...out of our own mental holography.
Which means that we too will eventually be able to
forever pass-on eternal life to our own offspring in precisely the same way we have received it from
our progenitor,...
...thus, completing the
"cycle of life" at the highest level of reality.
Keep in mind that according to our own investigations, this scene,...
...along with every other material phenomenon in the universe, is not only allegedly 99.9999999 percent "empty space",...
...but also appears to be created from an infinitely-malleable (informationally-based) substance that, according to physicist and author, Nick Herbert, is,...
"...no more substantial than a promise..."
...yet it is capable of becoming absolutely anything
"imaginable" (just like the substance from which our thoughts and dreams are created).
(My goodness, the parallels between our minds and the mind of God [the universe] are becoming almost too obvious.)
As I have suggested many times in the past, as we stand on the earth and look out into the universe, we are viewing...
(from a "fetal-like" - [a "seed within a melon" like] - perspective)
...the extent to which a singular living consciousness...
(a consciousness in possession of eternal life)
...has been able to order the contents of its own personal mind to the point of being able to replicate itself by conceiving its own offspring (us)
within itself.
Again, I could be wrong, but as always, I just don't know how the truth of reality could get any more
"natural" and
"organic" and
"equal" and
"perfect" and
"wondrous" for all of us, than what my theory suggests.
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