seeds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:48 am
Close your eyes and create the image of a basketball before the eye of your mind. Now create the image of a golf ball circling around it like a moon orbiting a planet.
There, you have just created thought.
tapaticmadness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:18 am
So you believe that the mind is an agent that has the power of creation.
I am sensing an exercise in futility here but, no, I think that the human mind is a closed - “arena-like” - phenomenon in which a conscious agent to which the mind belongs...
(that which you call your “me”)
...has the power to create absolutely anything it wishes (anything imaginable) out of the living fabric of its own personal being.
However, whatever the agent does create (as described above), it only exists (only has form/context/and reality) within, again, the “closed arena” of the agent’s mind.
tapaticmadness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:18 am
I think you have taken an idea and image from magic and mythology and tried to pawn it off as analysis.
Actually, I have simply taken something that is implicitly obvious to every child between the ages of, say, 2 and 7, and pointed it out to you.
Unfortunately, a child’s inward creativity (imagination) is something that gets repressed as they are forced to turn their attention outward in the process of the mandatory indoctrination into societal duties. And it is quite obvious (to me, anyway) that the depth and degree of the repression is much greater for some than it is for others.
tapaticmadness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:18 am
Examine the word “create” and see if you can see anything there. I say, you can’t. "Create" is a word that means nothing.
Again, I am sensing futility here, but according to
Dictionary.com:
Dictionary.com wrote:
Create
verb (used with object), cre•at•ed, cre•at•ing.
- 1. to cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes.
2. to evolve from one's own thought or imagination, as a work of art or an invention.
Apparently, in standard human usage, the word “create” does mean something after all.
And in regards to your support of the philosophy of
direct realism, allow me to offer an excerpt from the book “QUANTUM REALITY: BEYOND THE NEW PHYSICS, by physicist Nick Herbert:
physicist Nick Herbert wrote:
Though ghostly and transitory, Heisenberg’s shimmering ocean of potentia is the sole support for everything we see around us. The entire visible universe, what Bishop Berkeley called “the mighty frame of the world,” rests ultimately on a strange kind of being no more substantial than a promise.
What Herbert...
(and the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics)
...is suggesting is that what you refer to as being “reality” is, in truth, founded upon a nebulous and ethereal substance that is, as he put it:
“...no more substantial than a promise.”
The point is that reality may not be quite as “real” (whatever that’s supposed to mean) as you imagine it to be.
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