Nothing cannot cause anything
Nothing cannot cause anything
Assume that nothing can cause something. Nothing is however indifferent so one outcome is only one possibility among infinite possibilities. Only one possibility is improbable. Therefore only plausible scenario is when all possibilities are caused. Reality is however not indifferent. Therefore nothing cannot cause anything.
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Nothing already causes something because that is how quantum fluctuations come into existence
A state of absolute nothing is only stable for an infinitesimal period of time before it is disturbed
A state of absolute nothing is only stable for an infinitesimal period of time before it is disturbed
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Vacuum state is different from nothing.
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I agree with you bahman. a vacuum state is something, not nothing. and i agree with the notion that nothing cannot cause anything.
i think the real question is... was there ever really nothing? is that what physicists say?
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As a counter-evidence - try do nothing when your wife asks you to do the dishes, then watch how “nothing” causes outrage.
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The nothingness induces itself to the reality which contains the sight of our souls in order to assume that vacuum is located behind something, so the effect in fact is bringing a cause in itself that is the reason of our beliefs, therefore there are thoughts that make uncertainty, as if the things would be made by nothing, they brought the dissatisfaction that in reality is the reflex which contains the meaning of nothing.
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can you please reiterate in more simple terms? i am having a hard time understanding what you are saying.planetlonely23 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:37 pm The nothingness induces itself to the reality which contains the sight of our souls in order to assume that vacuum is located behind something, so the effect in fact is bringing a cause in itself that is the reason of our beliefs, therefore there are thoughts that make uncertainty, as if the things would be made by nothing, they brought the dissatisfaction that in reality is the reflex which contains the meaning of nothing.
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If nothing, cancels itself out, being results; thus what we understand of "nothingness" is effectively the inversion of 1 state into multiple states where "nothingness" is canceled out in respect to these multiple states converging as "1".bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:51 pm Assume that nothing can cause something. Nothing is however indifferent so one outcome is only one possibility among infinite possibilities. Only one possibility is improbable. Therefore only plausible scenario is when all possibilities are caused. Reality is however not indifferent. Therefore nothing cannot cause anything.
In simpler terms we only understand and can observe "nothingness" through a state of multiplicity in itself observed through time in which the seperation of one phenomenon from another (a cup from liquid, gun from bullet, house from inhabitants, man from woman, etc.) observes a state of "void". This void disappears when phenomena are unified.
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Nothing is nothing so it cannot cancel itself out. I am so sorry but I have difficulty to understand the rest of your post. English in not my first language and I cannot understand convoluted sentences.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:54 pmIf nothing, cancels itself out, being results; thus what we understand of "nothingness" is effectively the inversion of 1 state into multiple states where "nothingness" is canceled out in respect to these multiple states converging as "1".bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:51 pm Assume that nothing can cause something. Nothing is however indifferent so one outcome is only one possibility among infinite possibilities. Only one possibility is improbable. Therefore only plausible scenario is when all possibilities are caused. Reality is however not indifferent. Therefore nothing cannot cause anything.
In simpler terms we only understand and can observe "nothingness" through a state of multiplicity in itself observed through time in which the seperation of one phenomenon from another (a cup from liquid, gun from bullet, house from inhabitants, man from woman, etc.) observes a state of "void". This void disappears when phenomena are unified.
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I will start with this point then:bahman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:11 pmNothing is nothing so it cannot cancel itself out. I am so sorry but I have difficulty to understand the rest of your post. English in not my first language and I cannot understand convoluted sentences.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:54 pmIf nothing, cancels itself out, being results; thus what we understand of "nothingness" is effectively the inversion of 1 state into multiple states where "nothingness" is canceled out in respect to these multiple states converging as "1".bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:51 pm Assume that nothing can cause something. Nothing is however indifferent so one outcome is only one possibility among infinite possibilities. Only one possibility is improbable. Therefore only plausible scenario is when all possibilities are caused. Reality is however not indifferent. Therefore nothing cannot cause anything.
In simpler terms we only understand and can observe "nothingness" through a state of multiplicity in itself observed through time in which the seperation of one phenomenon from another (a cup from liquid, gun from bullet, house from inhabitants, man from woman, etc.) observes a state of "void". This void disappears when phenomena are unified.
Nothing is nothing, it does not exist. Hence what we observe as "nothing" is merely a state of relation between multiple parts that are not unified as 1.
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Nothing is not something but it can be a state of affair.
What is 1? I don't think that nothing is merely a state of relation between multiple parts. Multiple parts of what?
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Read it as a state which exists.
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There is no such thing as a state of absolute nothingness. There is a state in which there is no physicality,surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:05 am Nothing already causes something because that is how quantum fluctuations come into existence
A state of absolute nothing is only stable for an infinitesimal period of time before it is disturbed
but that's not a void, that's just a non-thing.